Should the Second Amendment apply to Biden voters? Should gun businesses refuse to serve people who voted Biden

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  • CampingJosh

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    Two thoughts:

    1: are they US citizens? Then yes they get guns
    2: what's that old quote, the capitalists will sell us the rope we use to hang them.
    We let these retards have guns so they can shoot at us?

    It's messy.
    But the constitution says citizens can have guns....for now
    If we understand the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights are innate rather than granted by the government, then I don't think the limitation to citizens alone is reasonable. I don't think any government has the authority to deny human rights without a conviction by a jury.
     

    Jaybird1980

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    If we understand the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights are innate rather than granted by the government, then I don't think the limitation to citizens alone is reasonable. I don't think any government has the authority to deny human rights without a conviction by a jury.

    What? You don't think Limitation to citizens alone is reasonable? You think they are going to give up their guns? I don't think so. Even if they said we are getting rid of every gun in the country, that doesn't make it reasonable.
     

    jbombelli

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    Our rights belong to all. We've sure sent a lot of good people to die in other countries, fighting for the same rights for those who live there that we enjoy here.

    Except the right to vote. That should be for citizens only, and should be the reward for going through the citizenship process.
     

    CampingJosh

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    What? You don't think Limitation to citizens alone is reasonable? You think they are going to give up their guns? I don't think so. Even if they said we are getting rid of every gun in the country, that doesn't make it reasonable.
    No. I mean that human rights can't be limited to U.S. citizens alone but should apply to all humans.
     

    Jaybird1980

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    There's more than one innate human right, and I've yet to find someone running for a job in D.C. that doesn't intend to infringe on some number of them.
    Only one of those rights gives you the ability to defend all your other rights. And you chose to back the guy vowing to take that right away. Zero Credibility.

    No use responding to me as I am ignoring you.
     

    Shooter5

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    It is a private business. Let the free market decide. If a business owner doesn’t want to sell an item to a consumer...so be it. Let that consumer go to another store or place of business. The free market will take care of it.
     

    Expat

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    The store is his property, the merchandise is his property. He has the freedom to admit and do business with whoever he wants. Don't tell me that some of you are even against property rights and the freedom to contract.
     

    drillsgt

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    The 2A applies to all Americans. There's no debate there.

    Personally I think its a ridiculous PR move to say "you're not selling to Biden voters" You cant make someone tell you who they voted for. If anything we should be spreading firearm knowledge and making it less scary to people who grew up in areas where they weren't raised around firearms. In the end we may convert people, and if nothing else when the sky is falling like i read about here everyday and we're being put into train cars off to reeducation camps they'll be right besides us because of scary black rifles.
    You may convert people to actually liking guns and shooting but you're not likely to change their voting habits.
     

    drillsgt

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    The examples I've seen of store owner proclamations of refusal to sell guns to liberals are a symbolic gesture and that's about it, as they are easily circumnavigated.

    If a liberal Biden supporter should choose to declare themselves as such immediately prior to a purchase, a gun store owner should be allowed to refuse sale to one who chooses to be defiant and argumentative at time of purchase, just as they've always been allowed to refuse sale to anyone else they deem to be of questionable nature.

    Now before you say "How do you know the buyer will be defiant and argumentative?" I ask do you really think they're going to avoid argument if the store has made public such a declaration. One might even question their sanity for entering a store with such declaration.
    Don't put it past the leftists to do just that, just like the cake baker debacle where they drove well out of their way to that particular baker just to cause controversy.
     

    OakRiver

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    The larger question here is cultural. Is the response to Cancel Culture to respond in kind, to take the high road and turn the other cheek, or something else?

    Should we choose our response based on "what's good for the goose", the effectiveness of that response, or moral values?
     

    billybob44

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    Yep. Most likely they'll still vote for gun grabbers for whatever reason, then want someone else to protect the 2A.
    My thoughts too.
    IMO, ALL Citizens of the USA should be protected by ALL of these Rights.
    My thoughts/questions are:
    For the Biden voters that are NOT rich, or Politically "Connected", how or who is to protect them from the current large batch of Bad Guys (And Gals)??
    Most all (Left or Right) knows that the local PD can/will NOT do it==They come after the crime to take reports for the most part.
    Do the poor/Left leaning Citizens want and deserve protections (FIREARMS) too??
    Just rambling thoughts here..?? Bill.
     
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