CZickiness XXXVIII Reboot. To Honor a friend

[JEBland]

I don't know that lightweight and 1-8x go together. Lightweight and 1-4, sure.

What scope do you have?

Yeah. I have never played with a 1-8x before. I seemed like a decent idea at the time. I think a 2-6, 2.5-7, or 2-7 would probably better suit me. I have two of America's rifle that need to be scoped. I wanted something with lowish low end magnification and thought I'd just try out the 1-8. I went with a 3 Series Crimson Trace: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020618935?pid=149367 I also went with the wider tube for lower light conditions... Not sure that was the best option. Weight is 22.4 oz. I don't know if it just feels heavy because it's in a smaller package. But it feels pretty heavy in the hand.

I'm most a whitetail hunter (in WV, so rifle is good to go), but would like to hunt some other things, too. Given that I was working yesterday evening until 8:30 or so... It's unlikely that I'll get to do much extra hunting while in grad school.

I'm also considering just a prism scope. Or some actually lightweight option like a holographic red dot with magnifier (I think holographic is more or less needed since I have an astigmatism). I have an aversion to Chinese made optics - not to their quality, but it's a product that I can avoid sending them money directly for it. I'll spare you all my rant about the Chinese government.

No purchases were made but the Bergara B-14 was the standout.

Very cool. I saw a review of rifles for under $800, and the Bergara was one of the favorites. I don't recall the exact model.

 

[hANNAbONE]

Good Morning : My People.!!

Cold here in Des Moines.

heading to Sidney, NE today and into snow and snow & SNOW coming home on Monday it seems.

Hope your Sunday is a good one.

Packers vs Chiefs ---- my take.

 

[mcapo]

Don't mean to sound preachy this morning, apologies, honestly trying to help.

I could hear the “AMEN” all the way over here!

*

 

[mcapo]

My favorite line of LVPO when price is a factor:

LEUPOLD VX-FREEDOM AR 1.5-4X20MM ILLUMINATED FIREDOT MIL-RING SKU 177226 - Gun Scopes at GunBroker.com : 889730892

Buy LEUPOLD VX-FREEDOM AR 1.5-4X20MM ILLUMINATED FIREDOT MIL-RING SKU 177226: GunBroker is the largest seller of Gun Scopes Scopes, Sights & Optics All: 889730892

www.gunbroker.com

I picked up a couple of the out of production AR MOD models last year for $3xx. Lightweight and great glass.

For a red dot, I like the Aimpoint PRO.

 

[JEBland]

Yeah. I have never played with a 1-8x before. I seemed like a decent idea at the time. I think a 2-6, 2.5-7, or 2-7 would probably better suit me. I have two of America's rifle that need to be scoped. I wanted something with lowish low end magnification and thought I'd just try out the 1-8. I went with a 3 Series Crimson Trace: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020618935?pid=149367 I also went with the wider tube for lower light conditions... Not sure that was the best option. Weight is 22.4 oz. I don't know if it just feels heavy because it's in a smaller package. But it feels pretty heavy in the hand.

For instance it's nearly double the weight of this Leupold 2.5-8x:

Leupold VX-3HD Rifle Scope 2.5-8x 36mm CDS-ZL Duplex Reticle Matte

The VX-3HD delivers what hunters want most in a riflescope: outstanding performance in low light, in an incredibly tough yet lightweight package. With...

www.midwayusa.com

Edit: Looks like mcapo more or less beat me to it.

 

[T-DOGG]

Yeah. I have never played with a 1-8x before. I seemed like a decent idea at the time. I think a 2-6, 2.5-7, or 2-7 would probably better suit me. I have two of America's rifle that need to be scoped. I wanted something with lowish low end magnification and thought I'd just try out the 1-8. I went with a 3 Series Crimson Trace: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020618935?pid=149367 I also went with the wider tube for lower light conditions... Not sure that was the best option. Weight is 22.4 oz. I don't know if it just feels heavy because it's in a smaller package. But it feels pretty heavy in the hand.

I'm most a whitetail hunter (in WV, so rifle is good to go), but would like to hunt some other things, too. Given that I was working yesterday evening until 8:30 or so... It's unlikely that I'll get to do much extra hunting while in grad school.

I'm also considering just a prism scope. Or some actually lightweight option like a holographic red dot with magnifier (I think holographic is more or less needed since I have an astigmatism). I have an aversion to Chinese made optics - not to their quality, but it's a product that I can avoid sending them money directly for it. I'll spare you all my rant about the Chinese government.


Very cool. I saw a review of rifles for under $800, and the Bergara was one of the favorites. I don't recall the exact model.

There are some other 1-8 scopes out there, like the Strike Eagle and Primary Arms offerings, that weigh about 5 ounces less than yours, but they're also 30mm tubes instead of 34mm. A heavier scope/mount package can make a relatively light AR feel quite a bit unbalanced. That's why I sold my Razor 1-6.

 

[patience0830]

View attachment 122295 Mounted. Yes my dresser is a craftsmen toolbox, dont ask me how i talked Mrs.BRC into that... Going out to tri county tomorrow to sight it in and debating on ordering the upper overhaul monday.

That is excellent. The dresser too.

 

[wtburnette]

Let me know if you mount it at absolute co-witness or Lower 1/3 co-witness and I'll have the Micro 3x set up to match.

Thanks but, I'm not even sure what you just said...

 

[wtburnette]

Dang it, now Matt has me going on the Bergara, the Timber to be exact:

B-14 Series - Bergara USA

Bergara has quickly become one of the most respected barrel makers in the world. Manufactured in Bergara, Spain, and being used by numerous top-tier gun manufacturers in both Europe and the United States, we have combined the most technically advanced barrel manufacturing techniques...

www.bergara.online

 

[T-DOGG]

I have a feeling the Bergara BMR is going to be very popular.

https://www.bergara.online/us/rifles/rimfire/

Their steel barrel model has a MSRP of only $565.

 

[JEBland]

There are some other 1-8 scopes out there, like the Strike Eagle and Primary Arms offerings, that weigh about 5 ounces less than yours, but they're also 30mm tubes instead of 34mm. A heavier scope/mount package can make a relatively light AR feel quite a bit unbalanced. That's why I sold my Razor 1-6.

Hmm. I probably won't buy another one like this. I thought since it's a straight tube, I thought "It'll be alright." It seems like it's about 4 ounces heavier than the Zeiss conquests. I couldn't find the box for my Zeiss scopes just a few minutes ago when I was looking to see how they compare. I don't anticipate to fully tac-out the rifle, it'll likely just be scoped.

 

[mcapo]

Dang it, now Matt has me going on the Bergara, the Timber to be exact:

B-14 Series - Bergara USA

Bergara has quickly become one of the most respected barrel makers in the world. Manufactured in Bergara, Spain, and being used by numerous top-tier gun manufacturers in both Europe and the United States, we have combined the most technically advanced barrel manufacturing techniques...

www.bergara.online

A LGS has one in stock. It had a great solid feel to the stock. VERY comfortable stock!

My son is leaning towards:

B-14 Ridge Rifle - Bergara Rifles USA

Bergara has quickly become one of the most respected barrel makers in the world. Manufactured in Bergara, Spain, and being used by numerous top-tier gun manufacturers in both Europe and the United States, we have combined the most technically advanced barrel manufacturing techniques...

www.bergara.online

 

[wtburnette]

A LGS has one in stock. It had a great solid feel to the stock. VERY comfortable stock!

My son is leaning towards:

B-14 Ridge Rifle - Bergara Rifles USA

Bergara has quickly become one of the most respected barrel makers in the world. Manufactured in Bergara, Spain, and being used by numerous top-tier gun manufacturers in both Europe and the United States, we have combined the most technically advanced barrel manufacturing techniques...

www.bergara.online

I don't know much about them, but the Timber model has the Monte Carlo style comb I like...

 

[mcapo]

I don't know much about them, but the Timber model has the Monte Carlo style comb I like...

It felt like a classic wood stocked hunting rifle. You would like it!

 

[Bennettjh]

Dang it, now Matt has me going on the Bergara, the Timber to be exact:

B-14 Series - Bergara USA

Bergara has quickly become one of the most respected barrel makers in the world. Manufactured in Bergara, Spain, and being used by numerous top-tier gun manufacturers in both Europe and the United States, we have combined the most technically advanced barrel manufacturing techniques...

www.bergara.online

That is very sharp. At least in the pictures, the stock looks beautiful.

 

[wtburnette]

Reminds me of my Annie, but in a centerfire cartridge.

 

[MindfulMan]

Not an unreasonable plan.

My general thoughts are as follows (based on very little time using a magnifier). Using the combination of red dot and magnifier without being able to easily mount and remove the magnifier does not seem appealing. The Strikefire II has a 4 MOA dot which will be 12 MOA with a 3x behind it. That will cover 2' at 200 yards. Not exactly a precision aiming setup. If you are going to flip it off to the side frequently it is just in the way.

Reality may be different than I imagine. Also a 1 MOA dot might be more appropriate with a magnifier.

In general, I feel better served with a 1-4x LPVO with a lighted center red dot in the reticle. It can be used like a red dot at 1x and cranked up for long shots without magnifying the dot.

Just my and worth what you paid for it.

WT......I'm aiming (haha) this post at you......but I wanted to say that I agree with Tarzan's assessment (above ).

 

[gmcttr]

Thanks but, I'm not even sure what you just said...

Scroll to the graphic showing the two different sight pictures.


https://www.at3tactical.com/blogs/news/co-witness-explained-absolute-vs-lower-1-3-cowitness-on-ar-s#:~:text=If you have flip-up,recommend lower 1/3 cowitness.

 

[Ruger_Ronin]

Kaloo kalay no work today! We're cabbages and kings!

GM all. Coffee or die. May have consumed slightly more Crown than necessary, but not too much. Glad the turkeys slept in. How fare thee?

 

[wtburnette]

That is very sharp. At least in the pictures, the stock looks beautiful.

My only fear is that the recoil might be harsher with that model than some of the others.

WT......I'm aiming (haha) this post at you......but I wanted to say that I agree with Tarzan's assessment (above ).

That's why I've decided to wait till I can meet up with him