If you can find it, I agree with the #4 buckshot......
We have enough in reserve. Sandy Hook was a valuable lesson for us. And we dont run the SG's like we used to.
Seems finding about anything right now is a challenge.
If you can find it, I agree with the #4 buckshot......
If you can find it, I agree with the #4 buckshot......
It's impressive at very very close distances but loses the juice pretty fast.
You need to remember, 00 buck is only 55gr pellets. #4 buck is 19gr pellets. Each pellet of 00 buck will do what a 22lr fmj will do, velocity and weight is similar enough after accounting for the loss in sectional density. Stepping down to #4 buck doesn't really have a good comparison, but it's almost half the power per pellet. I keep some on hand but it wouldn't be my first choice for defense because I don't trust it to reliably penetrate bone after the testing I've personally done.
If you want the most minimal risk of over-penetration, you need to use a very soft foster deer slug. Quite a few on the market will fail to even meet FBI penetration requirements. You also aren't risking any fliers that way.
If you're wanting more of a compromise load in buckshot, you want #1.
OP do you have a set budget in this search....?????
I want a 930 JM Pro myself. Can't find any for sale and if you do its $700 +
Yep everything is outrageous thats any good now. Ruger Precision Rifle i see are $1599 now. Bought mine at $750 nib from CDNN.To be fair, that was the going price before the panic.
I am not sure what your testing involved but what we did showed us that anywhere inside as house it was deadly lethal. If it did not "Enter" the bone it damn cure cleaned it off. The 2 3/4" is what I use indoors. Have you ran any of the #2 or #4 in the Hypersonic 3" offerings.
Remember we are mostly looking at 10 to 20 feet. At that distance I can see an intruder become and amputee with a well placed shot.......or 2.
I have the 930, - got it from an INGOer and a 870 pump. The 930 is actually 'softer' recoil, because the semi auto action takes some of the recoil bite you would get with a pump or a single shot. I like the idea on the #4 shot, but I do alternating 00 buck/slug.That should cover any soft or hard target I may have to engage. I also have my sidesaddle with a reload. Practice is important. Definitely do not use 'low recoil' shells. They are guaranteed to fail to eject. My understanding is the 930 operating system is very similar to the M4 (the M4 is what John Wick used in the 'catacombs scene in John WIck 2)
Friend and I both both 930s. Both went back to Mossberg for repair. Mine still doesn’t run right.
- I am not a SG fan. Too big, heavy, slow to load, hard to sling and maneuver in a house.
- why not get a quality pistol for similar money? Or a carbine? Or a 10/22? Even a compact bolt gun would be better.
- if you must have a SG, get a Mossberg 500 or 590, it will be much more reliable.
Where you running buckshot or trying to cycle skeet loads from walmart that wouldn't even be suitable for shooting a squirrel?
Friend and I both both 930s. Both went back to Mossberg for repair. Mine still doesn’t run right.
- I am not a SG fan. Too big, heavy, slow to load, hard to sling and maneuver in a house.
- why not get a quality pistol for similar money? Or a carbine? Or a 10/22? Even a compact bolt gun would be better.
- if you must have a SG, get a Mossberg 500 or 590, it will be much more reliable.
Issues I have had with the 930 was cycling the next shell from the mag tube into the action. To much spring pressure on the shells I the tube. Put the proper spring In It and off to the races.
The other problem comes from not assembling the gas system correctly and cracking the black ring. Beyond that if you keep them clean and oiled they rock. But you need to feed them properly
We have enough in reserve. Sandy Hook was a valuable lesson for us. And we dont run the SG's like we used to.
Seems finding about anything right now is a challenge.
So even shotgun ammo is in short supply? I know I'm diving in at a really bad time but I assumed it would be somewhat easier to find than most other types.
Meaning you prefer to swap out the factory-installed spring?