Coronavirus

[maxwelhse]

In the meantime, I may work on the plywood contraption up thread. But let me know ASAP if we are doing this. If it becomes something we need time will not be on our side.

I honestly think that the guys that build those for a living, professionally, could just ramp up production faster than any of us could whip up something ad-hock... but I think we could if he had to.

Back to the point of my post that started this mess, we're not Italy. We have guys here that know what we're doing and can get the job done, despite the media claiming America doesn't know how to manufacture anything anymore. I'm disappointed that sentiment seems to have grown roots at INGO.

 

[tbhausen]

Oh, they’re wrong. I wish I could show you guys all the things I’m working on right now, but they’re in development. I am a design engineer for a company that manufactures high-end professional racing simulators.

 

[2A_Tom]

 

[actaeon277]

Stopped by Kroger to get some necessities (candy) and figured I'd share my observations...

Water shelves were bare with the exception of Fiji water. There was a bunch.
No chicken, a little pork, a decent amount of beef. Packaged deli meats were gone.
Canned vegetables and beans were pretty picked over. The next aisle over, the soups were pretty much untouched.
No bread unless you go to the deli area. Decent amount of French loaves, e.t.c.
Vegetables. not a potato in sight. Onions were gone too with the exception of red onions. Still trying to figure that one out. Apparently, people don't like asparagus and it was on sale. So I grabbed some.
No toilet paper. No paper towels. Plenty of napkins in the next aisle over.
Hope you don't want hot pockets or pizza rolls. Frozen veggies were picked over, but, again, people don't seem to want broccoli. Ice cream was hit pretty hard too...
No mik, but juices were still there.

Dang.
Have it pretty good up here in NWI compared to that.
Well, at least as of last night.
I bought my regular stuff, added a few extra cans.
Forgot the cheeses for lasagna though. Have to go back tomorrow.

 

[2A_Tom]

My wife went to Stracks in M-ville. Check out lines were all the way back down every aisle. It took her an hour to check out.

 

[actaeon277]

My wife went to Stracks in M-ville. Check out lines were all the way back down every aisle. It took her an hour to check out.

10 PM last night, no wait.
Could be different now.

 

[2A_Tom]

She normally gets home 3 -3:30 from work. She got home after 5 today.

 

[d.kaufman]

10 PM last night, no wait.
Could be different now.

Its definitely different now. Once they closed the schools the panic seemed to set in. I stopped at Meijer in Portage after work. No hamburger, chicken, bread, tp, disinfectants, and canned goods, sauces, rice and pastas were picked through. Almost no cereal available either. Very little for milk and eggs.

Glad I am prepared as this media induced panic is now full fledged in the area

 

[maxwelhse]

She normally gets home 3 -3:30 from work. She got home after 5 today.

My trip to the small regional grocery store up here last night took about 20 minutes to check out. Normally it's 5 minutes. Unlike Walmart, Martin's had every single checkout manned and running, with a bagger at each register.

So... In my little fragile world, I knew things were jacked up. I go there expressly because I don't want Walmart/Meijer amounts of waiting. Looks like my theory was still proper science considering our results.

 

[hoosierdoc]

I think more important than how long it took to shop is how long it took me to leave work when shift was over. 10 minutes. I left 10 mins after my shift ended which is better than average. I'm an ER doc.

 

[jamil]

Come on, guys! Leave some for me! If I can't finish the floor, I can't reinstall the toilet. Without the toilet, what am I supposed to do with ALL THIS TOILET PAPER?!?!?!?!

They have those 5 gallon orange buckets at Home Depot.

 

[jamil]

Excellent move...

Bernie probably threw up.

 

[jamil]

I'll tell you the same as I tell everybody else: engineers don't design products, accounts do. You wanna file complaints? So do we...

That said, nobody ever said I was good at it (and certainly not good at filming it), but I'm a DIY guy too... and I've used, and will use, bailing wire again.

My 45 year old "tractor"

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP18uejB3RCcESjUItEiJeT1aHzvx6o02

Accountants? Oh. It’s even worse than that. Marketers design things, with consult of accountants.

 

[alabasterjar]

Menards apparently not accepting cash

Must be a local thing. Angola Menards is business as usual.

 

[Ziggidy]

I like that design. It could certainly save lives. There just aren't enough ventilators in the US and the ones we have are already being used at about 95% during flu season.

Not enough vents in the USA? Not sure about that. I believe there are enough and I also believe the manufacturers of many small (basic) vents could produce many quickly. As I stated before, I believe we have the equipment but would question where and how we could use them and if we had the manpower to properly manage them.

 

[Keith_Indy]

https://www.instructables.com/id/The-Pandemic-Ventilator/

Here is the guys blog which has updates.

I've played around with as arduino, pi, and a few other microcontrollers. I've got several in storage and could lend a hand if anyone is interested. Both with lending the electronics and programming. I also have components for prototyping with the microcontrollers. PM ME IF INTERESTED
https://panvent.blogspot.com/?m=1

 

[Keith_Indy]

With regards to being able to cobble together a ventilator...

BETTER TO HAVE AND NOT NEED, THEN NEED AND NOT HAVE.

Also, we aren't alone in this world, maybe a clinic in the middle of nowhere can use a design to make them on their own. Plenty of things have microcontrollers that can be repurposed.

On the other hand existing manufacturers could probably crank out enough new ones to fulfill the entire worlds needs. I'm assuming the components aren't terribly complicated except for the controller and switches.

 

[ditcherman]

Accountants? Oh. It’s even worse than that. Marketers design things, with consult of accountants.

Ok, can we agree that no marketers get any of our homemade ventilators? And we'll consider turning the oxygen ​up to half rate for the accountants if they promise to lobby for a simpler tax code? I can feel the power coming in to me!

 

[MCgrease08]

Ok, can we agree that no marketers get any of our homemade ventilators? And we'll consider turning the oxygen ​up to half rate for the accountants if they promise to lobby for a simpler tax code? I can feel the power coming in to me!

Woah, woah. wait just a minute. Marketing guy here. What did I do?

 

[ditcherman]

Woah, woah. wait just a minute. Marketing guy here. What did I do?

Introduced design obsolescence, increased overall costs while pushing for a cheaper product, and generally crushed souls! I know you are highly trained to deny this!

Participants shall apply purple according to their own normalcy bias.