Will Marijuana be legalized under Trump?

[Jimb]

While I'm against people screwing up their heads with pot I'm much more against the harm caused to people by the systems evolved from the "war" on drugs. The point of the system these days is to feed itself. It feeds primarily on the young people being goofy rebellious new in the world young people.
We really don't need to go through this any more.[/QUOTE

The evolution began with your first thought.....i.e.; prohibition.

 

[NKBJ]

While I'm against people screwing up their heads with pot I'm much more against the harm caused to people by the systems evolved from the "war" on drugs. The point of the system these days is to feed itself. It feeds primarily on the young people being goofy rebellious new in the world young people.
We really don't need to go through this any more.[/QUOTE

The evolution began with your first thought.....i.e.; prohibition.

I'm not following what you're saying.
We don't need gubmint enforced prohibition to have a moral and predominantly straight society.
We don't need the war on drugs life destroying system of laws, zero tolerance, courts and prisons.
But we do need freedom. We need freedom a whole great big bunch.
To put this another way, I don't care if you smoke dope. Sit at the house and smoke dope. Go sky diving while you're smoking dope. Eat banana splits in your hot tub smoking dope. Doesn't matter to me. Just don't hurt somebody while you're high or drunk and everything should be just fine.
But for crying out loud don't put up with the war on drugs.

 

[Jimb]

I'm not following what you're saying.
We don't need gubmint enforced prohibition to have a moral and predominantly straight society.
We don't need the war on drugs life destroying system of laws, zero tolerance, courts and prisons.
But we do need freedom. We need freedom a whole great big bunch.
To put this another way, I don't care if you smoke dope. Sit at the house and smoke dope. Go sky diving while you're smoking dope. Eat banana splits in your hot tub smoking dope. Doesn't matter to me. Just don't hurt somebody while you're high or drunk and everything should be just fine.
But for crying out loud don't put up with the war on drugs.

i agree with you 100%. All I was saying was when too many like minded humans, that dont agree with something, get together; we usually wind up with a war on something that makes someone, and some machine in DC a lot of money. Weed was made a schedule 3 drug just to help drive that engine.....and ensure the pharmas could continue to corner the market on pain mgmt. The folks we elect talk a big game on freedom, but in reality if it doesn't make their buddies money....it's usually just that; talk! The sooner folks see through this bull crap two party agenda...which is really one in the same, just dressed differently....the sooner common sense might do more talking in our governments.

 

[hoosierdoc]

point of order, it's a schedule I drug

 

[The Bubba Effect]

point of order, it's a schedule I drug

Point of information. You are right about the schedule status.

 

[jamil]

Point of information. You are right about the schedule status.

It is schedule 1.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

It is schedule 1.

I agree. I tried to agree with hoosierdoc when he said it, but I guess I screwed up. I'm not too good at things.

 

[jamil]

I agree. I tried to agree with hoosierdoc when he said it, but I guess I screwed up. I'm not too good at things.

No. It's my fault. I totally dyslexed that. I read it as "are you right" instead of "you are right".

 

[1DOWN4UP]

The war on drugs will be a 50 year war in 2 years if I am not mistaken.If the gubment wanted to win it,I think they would have by now.It is now worse than ever.I wonder if the US MINT will be issuing a DEA commemerative Silver coin for the occasion?

 

[Leadeye]

I wonder if factories will end up having to pay premium wages to workers just to find people who pass a drug screen. While having stoned workers or quality inspectors may not seem the same as doctors or pilots, they can create a real problem in manufacturing.

 

[rosejm]

I wonder if factories will end up having to pay premium wages to workers just to find people who pass a drug screen. While having stoned workers or quality inspectors may not seem the same as doctors or pilots, they can create a real problem in manufacturing.

While they may or may not be paying extra at the moment, I've heard complaints from many blue collar industries lamenting the lack of 'qualified' applicants; IE: those that can pass a drug screening.

Again, the bigger issue there is that a metabolite test will only indicate that past usage has occurred. I'm sure that we agree being intoxicated while at work is unacceptable, but what you do in your free time shouldn't be your employer's business (unless it affects their business, and then there's a different cause for action).

I have a feeling the narrative would quickly change if the current employees were told that they couldn't drink alcohol evenings/weekends since it would appear in a screening up to 2-3 weeks later.

 

[Bapak2ja]

Personally, I hope grass is legalized, along with all the other things we ban in the drug wars. I can purchase almost anything over the counter in Nepal, Thailand, Indonesia, Myanmar, India, and Bangladesh—and have. Never party drugs, of course, but only antibiotics and other prescription-only stuff. Make it available and legal. Tax it to a fare-thee-well! Pay off the national debt and let those of us who are not high get the jobs these idiots can't do while watching the elephants dance on the lawn. We also save a huge amount of cash by ending the war on drugs. Just have to control the market as they do with tobacco.

While at it, ensure the smokers and suppliers follow the same rules as applied to tobacco.

It makes no difference if the fool is high on cocaine, meth, tobacco, caffeine, or alcohol. DUI is DUI. Keep the public safe (which we can't do not with alcohol, but leave that for another time) and let the fools fry their brains. It's called freedom. Stupid is as Stupid does, and you can't fix it.

 

[hoosierdoc]

I agree. I tried to agree with hoosierdoc when he said it, but I guess I screwed up. I'm not too good at things.

No. It's my fault. I totally dyslexed that. I read it as "are you right" instead of "you are right".

guys, guys, stop blaming yourselves individually. You're both bad

I'm to the point I think it should be legalized, but it's just so funny that these goobers tried to give federal employees pot on federal land and got busted by the feds.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I wonder if factories will end up having to pay premium wages to workers just to find people who pass a drug screen. While having stoned workers or quality inspectors may not seem the same as doctors or pilots, they can create a real problem in manufacturing.

I can state first hand, it can be chore finding engineers that can pass a drug test. Stoned controls engineers, writing robot programs or designing safety circuits isn't something anyone working in a factory should want.

 

[Jludo]

I can state first hand, it can be chore finding engineers that can pass a drug test. Stoned controls engineers, writing robot programs or designing safety circuits isn't something anyone working in a factory should want.

Failing a drug test doesn't mean you go to work stoned. It shouldn't take a drug test to tell if someone is baked on the job, at which point it should be treated like anything else that interferes with an employees competency on the job.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Failing a drug test doesn't mean you go to work stoned. It shouldn't take a drug test to tell if someone is baked on the job, at which point it should be treated like anything else that interferes with an employees competency on the job.

You can hire them to work at your company if you want. Decisions have consequences and if you decide to smoke dope, be an alcoholic, not pay your bills, I'll not hire you.

 

[Jludo]

You can hire them to work at your company if you want. Decisions have consequences and if you decide to smoke dope, be an alcoholic, not pay your bills, I'll not hire you.

Does drinking disqualify a potential employee? I believe drug use should all be handled in the same manner.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Does drinking disqualify a potential employee? I believe drug use should all be handled in the same manner.

Your company, your rules.

 

[Denny347]

I wonder if factories will end up having to pay premium wages to workers just to find people who pass a drug screen. While having stoned workers or quality inspectors may not seem the same as doctors or pilots, they can create a real problem in manufacturing.

What do they do currently for alcohol? 17 million US persons have a substance use disorder with alcohol. The closest other single substance even close is marijuana at 3-4 million, opiods at 600k.

 

[DRob]

One of the "unintended consequences" (pol speak for "doh") in Colorado is that WalMarts, for example, all over the state are now woefully understaffed because they still drug test applicants. Making it legal has no bearing upon how an employer approaches it's use. The CO law also has no binding affect on local regulations. The county where my brother lives has refused to issue a business license for marijuana stores. People, especially legislators, seem to think the passage of a law they favor can't possible have a negative impact. WRONG! But then I did say legislators, didn't I?