Will Marijuana be legalized under Trump?

[Woobie]

I see we are back to blaming chemicals for our problems. Talk about getting old.

 

[BugI02]

I actually don't care what 'you' (not directed at you personally) do in the privacy of your own home, although I think chronic pot use makes people lazy and stupid. It's that intersection of your rights with mine thing. If you claim the right to alter your mental state while performing tasks that can adversely affect others; I don't want to ride with you, I don't want to depend on you, I don't want to employ you, I don't want you flying my plane or driving anywhere near me and I think the sanctions for overestimating your capabilities in a way that negatively affects me or mine should be extreme. This applies to alcohol, coke, meth, opiates etc every bit as much as pot

 

[churchmouse]

I actually don't care what 'you' (not directed at you personally) do in the privacy of your own home, although I think chronic pot use makes people lazy and stupid. It's that intersection of your rights with mine thing. If you claim the right to alter your mental state while performing tasks that can adversely affect others; I don't want to ride with you, I don't want to depend on you, I don't want to employ you, I don't want you flying my plane or driving anywhere near me and I think the sanctions for overestimating your capabilities in a way that negatively affects me or mine should be extreme. This applies to alcohol, coke, meth, opiates etc every bit as much as pot

Prescribed meds as well. Altered state, stay home. Then it is your right to treat your body as you see fit. Easy enough to understand.

 

[seedubs1]

Just had had a beer with my dinner. Guess I'm on my way down a slippery slope. Homeless and on heroine by next month I'm betting. Cant wait.

Insane because I don't think we should intentionally affect our brain functions with foreign chemicals? That's me I guess...



The fact that we have accepted this behavior for centuries while we have grown huge professional and private organizations to help people away from the poisons is puzzling. The same as standing by to watch the hordes of homeless users who care about nothing other than the bottle grow to rot our society and use our public resources.

^^^ That's just the legal stuff that we tout as cool. Alcohol and tobacco. The "relaxing" buzz effect of the chemicals that make us believe that chemical use is good. Doesn't even mention the chemical use mentality that lead a lot to the illegal stuff, the stuff we are discussing here. The next steps; crack, heroin, etc...



Yeah, yeah, I know I'm an anti-gunner because you disagree with my opinion.

^^^ That 's getting old real fast.
Some of you all should study up to back up your side of the discussion rather than failing attempts to insult those you disagree with.

 

[seedubs1]

Sounds about like alcohol. I could replace "marijuana" with "alcohol" and "high" with "drunk" and it would be perfectly correct as well.....

Lets not forget, there's already laws against driving inebriated and smashing your vehicle into a trove of toddlers. Outright bans and laws against victimless crimes are ludicrous and do no good for society.

5 Facts About Marijuana and Driving High

1. Marijuana slows your reaction time and ability to make decisions
2. The higher you are, the more risks you take while driving
3. The effect of marijuana is strongest during the first hour
4. Drivers can be tested for THC after being pulled over
5. Combining alcohol and marijuana is even more dangerous

Hurting me and mine through carelessness and indifference can be ... dangerous

 

[Woobie]

Prescribed meds as well. Altered state, stay home. Then it is your right to treat your body as you see fit. Easy enough to understand.

Yep. Whatever you are dumb enough to put in your body, don't make it my business.

 

[BugI02]

Just had had a beer with my dinner. Guess I'm on my way down a slippery slope. Homeless and on heroine by next month I'm betting. Cant wait.

You're going to be 'on' a female hero? Tut, tut - this is a family oriented site

Blame autocorrect in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

 

[seedubs1]

Nope, learnt myself something new. Heroin is not something I focus on, and I had no idea there was no E at the end.

I expect the mouse man to swing the ban hammer mightily.

You're going to be 'on' a female hero? Tut, tut - this is a family oriented site

Blame autocorrect in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

 

[ATM]

Insane because I don't think we should intentionally affect our brain functions with foreign chemicals? That's me I guess...

Don't like what others are choosing for themselves?

Try peaceful persuasion rather than force of law to bring about change.

Even a war on drugs hasn't worked, it's made just about everything worse.

 

[jamil]

"There will always be a fight against guns as long as we a society accept the use of weapons at all. Knives and brass knuckles being legal is a problem. This is where the Australians have it right. "

FTFY

As a left-leaning gun owner, I look forward to seeing conservatives try to argue against states rights on this issue

It depends whether you're making an argument from what is constitutional now, or what you believe should be constitutional. Given that the authority of the federal government to prohibit citizens from arming themselves is limited by the 2nd Amendment, it also depends whether you agree with the doctrine of incorporation. The authority of the government to regulate substances can be argued is an issue of interstate commerce. So, arguably, regulation of substances has a much more dubious footing on states' rights than firearm ownership. They aren't equivalents.

That said, I don't care what you do with your body. I don't care what you do behind your doors as long as you're not affecting me. I favor legalizing most of the recreational drugs, because I don't believe "society" has a right to tell you how to live your life. But along with that, they also don't have any obligation to step in and save you either.

If you want to **** up your brain, knock yourself out. But, as a condition of that liberty, yer on your own. If you make life choices that **** up your ability to make your own way, don't expect the public to bail you out.

Along with that, since I don't care what you do behind your doors, keep it behind your doors. It is reasonable for citizens to demand that you not endanger other people with your altered mental state.

Insane because I don't think we should intentionally affect our brain functions with foreign chemicals? That's me I guess...



The fact that we have accepted this behavior for centuries while we have grown huge professional and private organizations to help people away from the poisons is puzzling. The same as standing by to watch the hordes of homeless users who care about nothing other than the bottle grow to rot our society and use our public resources.

^^^ That's just the legal stuff that we tout as cool. Alcohol and tobacco. The "relaxing" buzz effect of the chemicals that make us believe that chemical use is good. Doesn't even mention the chemical use mentality that lead a lot to the illegal stuff, the stuff we are discussing here. The next steps; crack, heroin, etc...



Yeah, yeah, I know I'm an anti-gunner because you disagree with my opinion.

^^^ That 's getting old real fast.
Some of you all should study up to back up your side of the discussion rather than failing attempts to insult those you disagree with.

I think that's a far too authoritarian ideal. Society doesn't have the moral authority to control individuals' behavior down to that level. We can place reasonable expectations on individuals, like, don't harm others. I'm just not going to cede that much authority to you to decide what people can do with themselves. We've tried prohibition already. It was a disaster.

If you want people not to drink or do drugs, you have every right to try to persuade them. I'll help. I don't drink alcohol, and I don't take mind altering drugs (except I do luvs me coffee). That's not based on any religious belief, I don't like being in an altered state of mind.

But I have no right to use the force of government to impose my sensibilities on other individuals. Neither do you. But as I said, as fellow citizens, people who drink or take drugs don't have the right to impose the consequences of their recreation on other people.

So legalize drugs? Sure. But. Cause no harm. Get no handouts.

 

[bwframe]

I don't think any laws should change, but I do think that the govt should take the same actions with alcohol as they have cigarettes. PSA's and heavy taxation have all but eliminated the nasty cigarette habit that in my day nearly everyone tried and many picked up. We did this because it was the cool "adult" thing to do. Most of our parents and people we looked up to smoked and that's what we knew.

We hear very little about the negative aspects of alcohol unless we go to or are sent to rehab. Paint alcohol in the same poor light as we have cigarettes, along with taxing it to unaffordability, then we have a start. A start to change the mentality of the public from a chemical use mentality to a non.

This same non chemical mentality then leads to a non drug mentality, eventually. Educating the public to put only nutrients into our bodies is a long way out, but it's certainly achievable.

As as non user of alcohol, tobacco and drugs I would hope our president would lead the way to programs to un-glamorize their use. As the close brother of a man who drank himself to death at an early age, he could do a lot in his brother's name.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I see we are back to blaming chemicals for our problems. Talk about getting old.

I'd try to refute that, but I haven't had my coffee yet.

 

[indiucky]

I'd try to refute that, but I haven't had my coffee yet.

LOL....You caffeine junkies are the worse.....

 

[Dirtebiker]

There will always be a fight against other drugs as long as we a society accept the use of intoxicants at all. Alcohol and tobacco being legal is a problem. This is where the Muslims have it right.

You've got to be joking!?

 

[seedubs1]

I don't think any laws should change, but I do think that the govt should take the same actions with alcohol as they have cigarettes. PSA's and heavy taxation have all but eliminated the nasty cigarette habit that in my day nearly everyone tried and many picked up. We did this because it was the cool "adult" thing to do. Most of our parents and people we looked up to smoked and that's what we knew.

We hear very little about the negative aspects of alcohol unless we go to or are sent to rehab. Paint alcohol in the same poor light as we have cigarettes, along with taxing it to unaffordability, then we have a start. A start to change the mentality of the public from a chemical use mentality to a non.

This same non chemical mentality then leads to a non drug mentality, eventually. Educating the public to put only nutrients into our bodies is a long way out, but it's certainly achievable.

As as non user of alcohol, tobacco and drugs I would hope our president would lead the way to programs to un-glamorize their use. As the close brother of a man who drank himself to death at an early age, he could do a lot in his brother's name.

 

[seedubs1]

**** Sean Spicer. 2:30 in the video "I do believe you will see greater enforcement of it." - in reference to recreational marijuana being enforced by Feds in states allowing recreational use of marijuana. So much for states rights, listening to constituents, and looking at facts showing legalization has been a success.

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[Woobie]

I don't think any laws should change, but I do think that the govt should take the same actions with alcohol as they have cigarettes. PSA's and heavy taxation have all but eliminated the nasty cigarette habit that in my day nearly everyone tried and many picked up. We did this because it was the cool "adult" thing to do. Most of our parents and people we looked up to smoked and that's what we knew.

We hear very little about the negative aspects of alcohol unless we go to or are sent to rehab. Paint alcohol in the same poor light as we have cigarettes, along with taxing it to unaffordability, then we have a start. A start to change the mentality of the public from a chemical use mentality to a non.

This same non chemical mentality then leads to a non drug mentality, eventually. Educating the public to put only nutrients into our bodies is a long way out, but it's certainly achievable.

As as non user of alcohol, tobacco and drugs I would hope our president would lead the way to programs to un-glamorize their use. As the close brother of a man who drank himself to death at an early age, he could do a lot in his brother's name.

Ahhh, the sweet smell of Liberty!

 

[seedubs1]

Woobie gets it

Ahhh, the sweet smell of Liberty!

 

[aaron580]

You've got to be joking!?

Yea that's nuts, free will....

 

[bwframe]