From this point on in every Covert Carry Class I will reserve final say on whether or not your holster is worn properly, in a suitable location and is appropriate for your body type and the pistol being used.
I hat to tell Jim Wilson he is wrong, but I simply must. He says appendix carry has been around a long time. That is simply not true, Kirk has told us for years it is a new fad.
I hat to tell Jim Wilson he is wrong, but I simply must. He says appendix carry has been around a long time. That is simply not true, Kirk has told us for years it is a new fad.
And Bruce Gray is in the same camp as Larry but with his justification rooted in his experiences in the early 80s. AIWB is just a fashion retread like Disco and Bell Bottoms.
I have seen in person two people fire a round off while re-holstering. In both cases it was directly following the lecture about taking time to re-holster and doing so with the finger out of the trigger guard. It was after a safety briefing about the 4 rules are always in play. If you re-holster with your finger inside the trigger guard you are going to fire the gun. In both cases I have seen in person no one was hurt, and I cannot explain how that happened. Blaming gear and blaming holster position seem to be the easy way out in general. Tex shot himself the holster was irrelevant.
I saw those 2 people you're talking about. And one of them was standing right next to me when it happened. I about **** myself.
I hat to tell Jim Wilson he is wrong, but I simply must. He says appendix carry has been around a long time. That is simply not true, Kirk has told us for years it is a new fad.
I hat to tell Jim Wilson he is wrong, but I simply must. He says appendix carry has been around a long time. That is simply not true, Kirk has told us for years it is a new fad.
If we had to take kirk's ramblings as gospel, I'd put my blue gun in my mouth and pull the trigger.
Hush, you! Bruce Nelson inventing his Summer Special holster and wearing AIWB was just a dream! All of the customers of his who did the same in the 1980s never happened! There's no way people have been carrying AIWB since handguns have existed. It's just not so, even though evidence to the contrary exists.
I am trying to eat my lunch here. Now half of it is in my lap. I hope I didn't get any in my AIWB gun and holster.If we had to take kirk's ramblings as gospel, I'd put my blue gun in my mouth and pull the trigger.
I'm not the expert in carry methods or instruction.
However, I will add that the best way for an individual to carry (or the best way on a given day, depending on clothing, gun etc) might differ from the best way to train for class.
The most obvious example is the Flash-Bang. It takes time to properly reholster. If you tried to use something like that in a class, you are sooner or later going to shoot yourself. Because a class with holster work means you are reholstering innumerable times, the efficiency of that maneuver has to come into consideration.
It seems contradictory to NOT use your regular carry method in class, but I think you sometimes to have to modify for the sake of LOADED repeat training.
In an emergency how many times are you going to reholster? Zero to 2 ?
I think perhaps we practice drawing/reholstering repeatedly with unloaded weapons in a new or otherwise compromising holster. We use the most accessible, smoothest reholster method for loaded holster training. As often as possible, we carry that "smoothest use" holster if our body, clothing, law etc allow us to do so.
Training in a manner other than the way you actually carry kinda defeats the purpose of training at all.
Training in a manner other than the way you actually carry kinda defeats the purpose of training at all.
I'd go so far as to say if your manner of carry is unsafe to train with, you need to find a better way to carry.
If we had to take kirk's ramblings as gospel, I'd put my blue gun in my mouth and pull the trigger.
And I only carry an M&P because it was used in a movie I've never seen!
Eh, I'm going to disagree there. There are many lessons and many drills that are independent of carry method. You can absolutely take a training class, carry in a different way, and still get things out of the class (or training session) and then adjust and apply to how you normally carry.
Sometimes I work out of a duty belt. Sometimes I work from a ready gun. Sometimes I work out of an IWB with concealment. Sometimes I work out of an OWB with no concealment. Why? Because I may have to work with any of that. Most of the time the lessons and skills from one translate readily to the others.
If I wanted to train with a particular instructor and they mandated an OWB retention holster, something I don't routinely use, I'd take the class, run it according to their rules, then adapt what I learned to me and my situation.
If I wanted to train with a particular instructor and they mandated an OWB retention holster, something I don't routinely use, I'd take the class, run it according to their rules, then adapt what I learned to me and my situation.