First negative encounter while OC

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  • teejay422

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    Stopped by the Marsh on Walnut here in muncie to pick up a card for my friend's baby shower. This is the guy who I bought the Rem 770 for, so a card will have to do... unless his wife wants a rifle after the kid pops out.

    They decided to do a co-ed and less frilly event but i knew I needed to take something with. Figured a quick stop by the local grocery would suffice.

    I happened to run into a friend of mine on the first aisle. He is a retired police officer and now has some sort of desk job with the FOP. He didn't mind the G19 on my right hip, but part way through our conversation i feel someone staring at me over my left shoulder. As I turn around, the manager of the store cuts me off mid-sentence and asks if I'm an LEO. My friend chuckled and I told the manager I wasn't LEO but wondered why he asked. He tells me that only LEO are allowed in his store with a gun "on display" and tells me if I don't have a badge, I need to hand him my gun.

    Excuse me, I don't know this guy from Adam and have no reason to believe unholstering a loaded weapon with one in the pipe and no manual safety to hand it to a stranger is a good idea. I politely declined although my few choice words were not far from escaping. The guy told me that an Indiana permit allowed me to carry concealed and that's "how it should be." he then tells me he has a permit too and he carries responsibly so as not to offend anyone. I politely told him that was up to him and how he chose to carry but asked if he could show me on his LTCH where it indicates concealed. Now he was stumped and simply told me I could surrender my weapon or cover it. I told him that I didn't mind leaving and finding a store that doesn't infringe on my rights and told him to have a nice day.

    Again, he told me all I had to do was cover it or hand it over. So I simply said no and left. My friend, who was shopping with his wife, must have forgot something on aisle one because they both had full carts. He also must have been just as offended as I was because he walked out behind me leaving this fine gentleman with two full carts of go-backs. Walgreen's didn't mind my pistol and they even had more cards to choose from.

    Now, why would someone think that they would be better off with a loaded pistol changing hands than one sitting quietly in a holster? Was I just being a thorn by not covering up, or would you have done the same? Any one up for an OC event here soon?
     

    Tryin'

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    Meh, whatever. Some people care, some don't. I OC'd at the Clay Terrace Mall in Carmel, Wal-Mart, and Kroger today with my wife and kid. I only noticed ONE person taking a second look. . .
     

    jon5212

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    Seems as the manager is ignorant, however the store isn't your property so even though it is ignorant of them to pull a stunt like that, it is their right. Of course it is your right to not do business with that particular store and spread the word. I myself would have politely told him to shove it and let him know that store would not receive my business.
     

    Scutter01

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    "Hand it over"? :scratch: What in the world made him think he had the right to confiscate your gun?
     

    38special

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    Totally your right to leave and patronize a better establishment.

    You're absolutely correct. It's far more dangerous (not to mention stupid) to hand your gun to someone else, rather than leaving it in the holster. I think I'd have done exactly the same thing.
     

    Que

    Meekness ≠ Weakness
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    You did the right thing. Why spend your money there? Who would have been responsible if you had turned over your gun, only to have him fire a round, followed by, "I thought you had it on safe!" :dunno:
     

    3gunshooter

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    I do not open carry, one day i am going to everywhere I go when I have a day without the wife and kids. I want to see what a full day of OC brings me. I read a lot of good and bad. When I do it I will post my itinerary for the day and report how it went. Lets just say its kind of a field trip.
     

    sj kahr k40

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    I do not open carry, one day i am going to everywhere I go when I have a day without the wife and kids. I want to see what a full day of OC brings me. I read a lot of good and bad. When I do it I will post my itinerary for the day and report how it went. Lets just say its kind of a field trip.

    OC with the kids, it's funny to see the way some people react when the see a dad carrying a gun. I almost always OC when I shop with my 3 year old.
     

    teejay422

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    Me three...

    OC with the kids, it's funny to see the way some people react when the see a dad carrying a gun. I almost always OC when I shop with my 3 year old.


    Nothing says, first time dad-with-a-daughter like lugging a carseat, while carrying a Whinnie the Pooh diaper bag and a handgun. In fact, I bought my first pistol a few weeks before Addy arrived. When my girlfriend asked me why I wanted a gun, I said, "because we're having a girl." She dropped the argument and we have probably never been at more of an understanding. :rockwoot:
     

    Elkrock777

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    I'm very impressed that the friend walked after spending all that time filling 2 carts, but thats exactly what I would have done.
    When i was young like 21 and first started carrying a gas station attendant told me he had the right to tell me not to come in with a gun, of course i had already pumped so i polightly payed and said i know he does and told him to tell his boss that they lost a customer for life. I never went back to that gas station. I also get the last laugh because they closed up a few years back and every time i drive by i smile.:)
     
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    Bigum1969

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    As others have said, private property wins. But, I would've walked as well.

    That manager was an a$$hat to think he could take your gun.
     

    Comp

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    "Hand it over" WTF. People like this **** me off. I kind of wish he would of tried to take it and got a pistol whip in the temple. Not that I advocate senseless violence but the nerve of that guy. He was so uneducated at guns and laws I'm surprised he didn't think it was he right to disarm you by force.

    Having said that, I'm glad you walked and nobody was hurt.
     

    2cool9031

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    I hand my gun to no one except a LEO, I won't even let a friend hold it unless we are at a gun range or if it is unloaded.
     
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