Will you take the Covid Vaccine?

[BigRed]

There's no reason to alter society completely over a percent or 2 of risk.

Sure there is.

Operant conditioning and control.

 

[Ingomike]

I think it is facinating how the whole vaccine thing has blown over except in corporations and their HR departments, and government control freaks. Rarely hear a word except from those types...

 

[BigRed]

Just imagine how easy it will be to get the sheep to comply within 10 years.....you know, when kids who have been brainwashed by the scamdemic have graduated and become adults and "leaders" in the workforce,

 

[actaeon277]

I get approx 8 migraines a month.
Like a midget is in my skull, stabbing the back of one eyeball with an ice pick.
Usually the right one, but sometimes the left.
Of those, maybe 2 times a month it is so bad it involves me puking my brains out. Often for 24 hours.
To put it mildly, it sucks.
And it's not IF I get a migraine.
It is WHEN I get a migraine.

Now I take Botox shots for migraine. Every 3 months, I get 30 shots in my skull, neck, and shoulders.
Here's the thing.
It doesn't make me "immune".
I still get them.
Only, I get less than half of them, maybe more like a quarter of them.
And most of them are at the end of the 3 months, just before my next set of shots.
I was scheduled to get shots this coming Thursday (before my boss scheduled an extra shift).
I have a migraine right now.

But...
Instead of being stabbed in the eyeball with an ice pick, it's more like it's just being "poked" with a finger.
And it only gets bad enough to puke maybe every other month.



Immunity doesn't mean 100 percent you won't get it.

 

[mbills2223]

Some were calling for it to be "mandatory".
What happens when you refuse something mandatory?

Jail or a gun.

Is that what happens with all the other mandatory things in this country?

 

[BigRed]

Is that what happens with all the other mandatory things in this country?

Examples that do not?

 

[actaeon277]

Is that what happens with all the other mandatory things in this country?

yes.

 

[actaeon277]

ALL LAWS eventually are backed up by the power of the State.
This power, is the power to lock up, or kill.

What laws are not?

 

[BigRed]

ALL LAWS eventually are backed up by the power of the State.
This power, is the power to lock up, or kill.

What laws are not?

Exactly why the proliferation of laws is so dangerous.

 

[nonobaddog]

I get approx 8 migraines a month.
Like a midget is in my skull, stabbing the back of one eyeball with an ice pick.
Usually the right one, but sometimes the left.
Of those, maybe 2 times a month it is so bad it involves me puking my brains out. Often for 24 hours.
To put it mildly, it sucks.
And it's not IF I get a migraine.
It is WHEN I get a migraine.

Now I take Botox shots for migraine. Every 3 months, I get 30 shots in my skull, neck, and shoulders.
Here's the thing.
It doesn't make me "immune".
I still get them.
Only, I get less than half of them, maybe more like a quarter of them.
And most of them are at the end of the 3 months, just before my next set of shots.
I was scheduled to get shots this coming Thursday (before my boss scheduled an extra shift).
I have a migraine right now.

But...
Instead of being stabbed in the eyeball with an ice pick, it's more like it's just being "poked" with a finger.
And it only gets bad enough to puke maybe every other month.



Immunity doesn't mean 100 percent you won't get it.

Holy crap man! That is terrible. I am very sorry to hear that.
Have you tried other treatments to try to find something that is most effective for you? Like CGRP antibodies?

 

[Ingomike]

I get approx 8 migraines a month.
Like a midget is in my skull, stabbing the back of one eyeball with an ice pick.
Usually the right one, but sometimes the left.
Of those, maybe 2 times a month it is so bad it involves me puking my brains out. Often for 24 hours.
To put it mildly, it sucks.
And it's not IF I get a migraine.
It is WHEN I get a migraine.

Now I take Botox shots for migraine. Every 3 months, I get 30 shots in my skull, neck, and shoulders.
Here's the thing.
It doesn't make me "immune".
I still get them.
Only, I get less than half of them, maybe more like a quarter of them.
And most of them are at the end of the 3 months, just before my next set of shots.
I was scheduled to get shots this coming Thursday (before my boss scheduled an extra shift).
I have a migraine right now.

But...
Instead of being stabbed in the eyeball with an ice pick, it's more like it's just being "poked" with a finger.
And it only gets bad enough to puke maybe every other month.



Immunity doesn't mean 100 percent you won't get it.

So sorry to hear this.

 

[actaeon277]

Holy crap man! That is terrible. I am very sorry to hear that.
Have you tried other treatments to try to find something that is most effective for you? Like CGRP antibodies?

I used to treat with relpax, or a few others. I think the "family" is called triptopans. Maybe mbills can correct me.
But they have a risk of stroke.
And I had a stroke in my right eye. Lost the top halfof the vision in that eye.
So no one will prescribe those to me.
So then I took excedrin migraine. But it wasn't effective. I took them like candy.
But they are bad for the stomach.
Came home from work and filled my toilet with blood.
Enough to lose consciousness.
Hospital found an ulcer in the bottom of the stomach, ate into a vein.
Attributed to the excedrin.

So, then to botox.
It helps. And I treat with excedrin, but I limit to 1. And a mountain dew for the caffeine to help.

There are new treatments. But I don't want to try them.
Maybe if mine get worse.
But for now I live with what I have. Botox and excedrin.

 

[JCSR]

Have you tried this? I had a co-worker that was helped bigly with acupuncture.

Acupuncture and Migraine: Finding a combination that sticks​

Acupuncture and Migraine | American Migraine Foundation

If you're considering treating migraine with acupuncture, take a look at this guide to understand how it works and what it can do for you.

americanmigrainefoundation.org

 

[nonobaddog]

I used to treat with relpax, or a few others. I think the "family" is called triptopans. Maybe mbills can correct me.
But they have a risk of stroke.
And I had a stroke in my right eye. Lost the top halfof the vision in that eye.
So no one will prescribe those to me.
So then I took excedrin migraine. But it wasn't effective. I took them like candy.
But they are bad for the stomach.
Came home from work and filled my toilet with blood.
Enough to lose consciousness.
Hospital found an ulcer in the bottom of the stomach, ate into a vein.
Attributed to the excedrin.

So, then to botox.
It helps. And I treat with excedrin, but I limit to 1. And a mountain dew for the caffeine to help.

There are new treatments. But I don't want to try them.
Maybe if mine get worse.
But for now I live with what I have. Botox and excedrin.

Right, the Triptans are vasoconstrictors and interfere with pain pathways but they do have a risk of stroke.
The CGRP antibodies are a group of fairly new (2018) treatments, some of the first group of meds actually aimed at migraines from the beginning and not repurposed from other treatments, but as long as you are satisfied with the status quo, that is the main thing.

 

[churchmouse]

Have you tried this? I had a co-worker that was helped bigly with acupuncture.

Acupuncture and Migraine: Finding a combination that sticks​

Acupuncture and Migraine | American Migraine Foundation

If you're considering treating migraine with acupuncture, take a look at this guide to understand how it works and what it can do for you.

americanmigrainefoundation.org

Say what you will but this has a place.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I used to treat with relpax, or a few others. I think the "family" is called triptopans. Maybe mbills can correct me.
But they have a risk of stroke.
And I had a stroke in my right eye. Lost the top halfof the vision in that eye.
So no one will prescribe those to me.
So then I took excedrin migraine. But it wasn't effective. I took them like candy.
But they are bad for the stomach.
Came home from work and filled my toilet with blood.
Enough to lose consciousness.
Hospital found an ulcer in the bottom of the stomach, ate into a vein.
Attributed to the excedrin.

So, then to botox.
It helps. And I treat with excedrin, but I limit to 1. And a mountain dew for the caffeine to help.

There are new treatments. But I don't want to try them.
Maybe if mine get worse.
But for now I live with what I have. Botox and excedrin.

There are times when words are completely inadequate.

 

[actaeon277]

There are times when words are completely inadequate.

Everyone has problems.
What's that quote from Princess Bride?
Life is pain.
Anyone tells you different, they're trying to sell you something.

 

[actaeon277]

Right, the Triptans are vasoconstrictors and interfere with pain pathways but they do have a risk of stroke.
The CGRP antibodies are a group of fairly new (2018) treatments, some of the first group of meds actually aimed at migraines from the beginning and not repurposed from other treatments, but as long as you are satisfied with the status quo, that is the main thing.

I don't know if I'd say "satisfied".
More like "the evil I know".

If it stopped working, then I'd try something else, which may even work better.

 

[actaeon277]

Have you tried this? I had a co-worker that was helped bigly with acupuncture.

Acupuncture and Migraine: Finding a combination that sticks​

Acupuncture and Migraine | American Migraine Foundation

If you're considering treating migraine with acupuncture, take a look at this guide to understand how it works and what it can do for you.

americanmigrainefoundation.org

Nope. Haven't tried it.

 

[mbills2223]

Examples that do not?

ALL LAWS eventually are backed up by the power of the State.
This power, is the power to lock up, or kill.

What laws are not?

First thing to come to mind are seat belt laws and helmet laws. Very similar in nature actually as they are intended to save lives, but you won't be going to jail or executed for not complying.