Vaccine coercion/bribery

[Alpo]

It's a long string of false equivalency. It you cannot debate the point, switching to "yeah? well, so's your old man" is allowed only through primary school.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

It's a long string of false equivalency. It you cannot debate the point, switching to "yeah? well, so's your old man" is allowed only through primary school.

This isn’t talking about “my old man” it’s talking about an unproven vaccines efficacy vs other medications. Significantly different, just because you define it as whataboutism doesn’t mean it is. It’s a conversation that needs to be had, and providing no rebuttal other than whataboutism isn’t engaging in a discussion about alternatives.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I thought the vaccine was about public safety

 

[Alpo]

This isn’t talking about “my old man” it’s talking about an unproven vaccines efficacy vs other medications. Significantly different, just because you define it as whataboutism doesn’t mean it is. It’s a conversation that needs to be had, and providing no rebuttal other than whataboutism isn’t engaging in a discussion about alternatives.

Then debate the point. Don't deflect into "Well, what about so and so?" Asking questions not specific to the item being discussed is not a rebuttal.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Then debate the point. Don't deflect into "Well, what about so and so?" Asking questions not specific to the item being discussed is not a rebuttal.

Alternative medications to an unproven vaccine certainly is a rebuttal.


Discussing long term side effects of an unproven vaccines certainly is a rebuttal.


Discussing the ineffectiveness of the unproven vaccine certainly is a rebuttal.



All discussions worth having. All debating the point. Calling them whataboutisms to avoid the topic altogether would describe your second sentence. It’s deflection, and that is not debating the point nor is it a rebuttal

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I’ll also add that true whataboutism would be when the guys pushing the vax scream “what about the polio vaccine and the smallpox vaccine”. I’ve seen it right here in this very thread and it was never called out as whataboutism, nor does it relate to the current vaccine in any way. Discussing alternatives to the current vaccine is related to the discussion.

 

[buckwacker]

Alternative medications to an unproven vaccine certainly is a rebuttal.


Discussing long term side effects of an unproven vaccines certainly is a rebuttal.


Discussing the ineffectiveness of the unproven vaccine certainly is a rebuttal.



All discussions worth having. All debating the point. Calling them whataboutisms to avoid the topic altogether would describe your second sentence. It’s deflection, and that is not debating the point nor is it a rebuttal

Oh he gooood at that there deflectin thang. But I guess I would have to hone those skills if I helped vote this train wreck into power.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Oh he gooood at that there deflectin thang.

I like alpo, I enjoy our debates and discussions, for the most part. I can get irritated with him just like he can me, I don’t feel when he deflects it’s intentional, just like when I do it isn’t intentional. We’re legitimately trying to make our point or call something out. He knows I’ll still buy him a beer. Or a daiquiri... I won’t judge

 

[Alpo]

My grandma drank daquiris. Whatchoo got agin Grandmas?!!!!!

 

[tbhausen]

Yeah, Alpo has always been reasonable and enjoyable to debate.

 

[buckwacker]

I like alpo, I enjoy our debates and discussions, for the most part. I can get irritated with him just like he can me, I don’t feel when he deflects it’s intentional, just like when I do it isn’t intentional. We’re legitimately trying to make our point or call something out. He knows I’ll still buy him a beer. Or a daiquiri... I won’t judge

Oh I have a beer with him and you both. But I'll also call out the deflection. When he gets pinned down, he has a tendency to resort to these childish retorts that I get a kick out of.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

My grandma drank daquiris. Whatchoo got agin Grandmas?!!!!!

It isn’t the grandmas I take issue with, it’s the fruity drinks

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Oh I have a beer with him and you both. But I'll also call out the deflection. When he gets pinned down, he has a tendency to resort to these childish retorts that I get a kick out of.

Wait, I thought we were talking about alpo, not Kirk?

 

[JCSR]

I like alpo, I enjoy our debates and discussions, for the most part. I can get irritated with him just like he can me, I don’t feel when he deflects it’s intentional, just like when I do it isn’t intentional. We’re legitimately trying to make our point or call something out. He knows I’ll still buy him a beer. Or a daiquiri... I won’t judge

Don't be the frog

 

[Alpo]

Oh he gooood at that there deflectin thang. But I guess I would have to hone those skills if I helped vote this train wreck into power.

You'd be more believable if you didn't think that a certain tranny admiral was in the Navy.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Don't be the frog

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That makes me wanna eat a salad

 

[Hatin Since 87]

You'd be more believable if you didn't think that a certain tranny admiral was in the Navy.

Would this be considered whataboutism? (Had to)

 

[Alpo]

Would this be considered whataboutism? (Had to)

Nah. I finally got Buck and Bug in the pic thread. They thought that this "admiral" was part of the US Navy.

It's outright deflection. Not whataboutism.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Nah. I finally got Buck and Bug in the pic thread. They thought that this "admiral" was part of the US Navy.

As long as it’s describing her(?) rank and not her “admirable” character...

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I know, I know. I’ll see myself out.