While I'm sure this will devolve into a gigantic semantic debate that doesn't amount to a hair in a bear's backside...
How about when a guy drops a pistol and it goes off...That fits what I've been trained on.
ND = violation of Cooper's four rules
AD = mechanical failure
NDs happen far more often than ADs, particularly with modern firearms.
How about when a guy drops a pistol and it goes off...
That fits what I've been trained on.
ND = violation of Cooper's four rules
AD = mechanical failure
NDs happen far more often than ADs, particularly with modern firearms.
Depends, did he keep it pointed in a safe direction throughout the drop and subsequent discharge?
While I'm sure this will devolve into a gigantic semantic debate that doesn't amount to a hair in a bear's backside, I largely agree. For the purposes of censure, there must be a delineation.
However, I'd tweak it a bit. Anything you didn't mean for the gun to go off is an AD. It was accidentally discharged. An AD can ALSO be an ND if negligence was involved. In short, I just cut out the concept of "UD".
I had an AD last Friday. Another officer gave me a CZ P07 to try at the range. The first shot was intentional. I then shot a second time before I was ready to do so. The trigger breaks much further forward than my Sig, and with no noticeable indication it's about to break (a very smooth, short, and light SA pull...I was rather impressed). I fired the second time when my intent was to take slack out of the trigger. As I was not intending to shoot yet, my second shot was an AD. It was into the target and then into the berm and I *did* intend to shoot...just not quite so soon, so I would not consider it an ND.
Scenario #3:
I'm out at the range with my SKS. Darn thing keeps acting up so I step away from the line and work on it. And since I'm completely engrossed in my task at hand I don't notice where the muzzle is pointed. As the bolt with a sticky firing pin closes on a live round - BAM! This time a tragedy occurs because I violated the safety rules. It's still an AD as far as I'm concerned (others may argue).
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