UK police ordered to stand down & watch London burn; Then given unchecked power

[rambone]

You might have heard that there have been riots in the UK for the past few days. The first 3 days have been met by a surprisingly soft approach by the police. They were ordered to stand by and watch as looters burned the city. Now, as disarmed shopkeepers and residents are crying for help, the Prime Minister is granting the police unchecked power.

Economic problems can easily be used to create a veritable Police State.


London riots: Police were soft on looters because they were 'ordered to stand and observe'

Police were ordered to 'stand and observe' rioters as they laid waste to London's streets instead of confronting them, it was claimed today.

Scotland Yard insiders have revealed teams were frustrated at their inability to wade in and arrest troublemakers while they looted and burnt out shops.

They had apparently been told to try and contain any violence but not to haul away offenders who would instead be identified through video footage later, according to The Times.

Prime Minister: The fightback is under way

"Whatever tactics the police feel they need to employ, they will have legal backing to do so," he said.

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There have also been calls for far more robust measures - including plastic bullets, water cannon and even the Army - to quell the chaos.

 

[rambone]

Agent Provocateurs

I'd like to remind people that the UK government has been busted for sending cops into crowds dressing as anarchists and starting violence. These types of events are being used to squelch their rights to assemble and protest, as well as strengthen the UK Police State.

UK sends infiltrators into crowds to incite rioting; excuse to ban protests

London may ban Political Protests

 

[IndySSD]

Hmm... reminds me of something.... can't quite put my finger on it.... oh yeah... here it is:

 

[redneckmedic]

I fully support the

Whatever tactics the police feel they need to employ

.... with that said, what is good for the goose is good for the gander!

 

[rambone]

I fully support the ....

Whatever tactics the police feel they need to employ

with that said, what is good for the goose is good for the gander!

So how about house-to-house sweeps for stolen property...
...frisking anyone seen in public...
...Army patrolling the streets...
...mandatory curfew for all...
...rounding up those who speak out...

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

If the people cannot govern themselves in a civilized manner , they will be governed .

Play nice or deal with the consequences .

 

[rambone]

If the people cannot govern themselves in a civilized manner , they will be governed .

Play nice or deal with the consequences .

 

[redneckmedic]

Rambone, I think you misunderstood me.... if its OK for the cops (goose), its OK for the general public (gander) to do whatever it takes without consequences from the law to protect themselves from whoever then need protecting from.

 

[IndySSD]

Rambone, I think you misunderstood me.... if its OK for the cops (goose), its OK for the general public (gander) to do whatever it takes without consequences from the law to protect themselves from whoever then need protecting from.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not for riots nor for looting and I certainly have zero desire to ever come toe to toe with LEO's but I believe fully that I should be able to defend my property against illegal invasions without fear of legal repercussions regardless of who the invader may be.

 

[rambone]

Rambone, I think you misunderstood me.... if its OK for the cops (goose), its OK for the general public (gander) to do whatever it takes without consequences from the law to protect themselves from whoever then need protecting from.

I don't think the measures that are likely to be employed will even apply to private citizens. Specifically, checkpoints, curfews, searches... use of the Army??... etc.

So I can't say that I support a leader who advocates the 'anything goes' approach to Law Enforcement. Its nothing short of frightening coming from the Prime Minister.

 

[Dogman]

The people of the UK allowed themselves to be disarmed believeing that the police would protect them......how's that working out for them.

 

[Westside]

The people of the UK allowed themselves to be disarmed believeing that the police would protect them......how's that working out for them.

You forgot to add the even the police have been disarmed. So a basic zip gun would overpower the police in London.

 

[BlueEagle]

Wouldn't take much. There is no punishment for these rioters; they get free stuff and they get to smash stuff and have a good time, and they won't get arrested. At least, until recently. I think it will be interesting to see how the law enforcement actually employs their free-rein strategy. With no real weapons, its going to be interesting.

 

[Expat]

Looks like citizens are being murdered now if they stand up and try to protect their homes.
Birmingham riots: three men killed 'protecting homes' - Telegraph

 

[gunowner930]

Terrible. I've got a feeling these punks would start behaving themselves a little better if they knew that there were potentially lethal consequences for their behavior.

 

[Kase]

Looks like citizens are being murdered now if they stand up and try to protect their homes.
Birmingham riots: three men killed 'protecting homes' - Telegraph

Thats insane......


I can't help but try to imagine what would happen here, if these sorts of things were going on?

I think there would probably be a lot of dead BG's

 

[Expat]

Terrible. I've got a feeling these punks would start behaving themselves a little better if they knew that there were potentially lethal consequences for their behavior.

I think that would also tend to cause the authorities to stop it faster. They would know that a few days of this type of violence would cause property owners to start killing looters.

 

[IndySSD]

I think that would also tend to cause the authorities to stop it faster. They would know that a few days of this type of violence would cause property owners to start killing looters.

heh, I'm pretty sure a few HOURS of this here (In Indiana) would cause property owners to start dealing rightfully with looters...

 

[CVMA544]

I don't care what my grievance with the Govt, I would have a real problem with destroying privately owned property to make a statement in almost any situation.

There could be exceptions of course.

 

[gunowner930]

I don't care what my grievance with the Govt, I would have a real problem with destroying privately owned property to make a statement in almost any situation.

There could be exceptions of course.

Most of them don't have a grievance. They're sh-theads taking advantage of lawlessness to steal, destroy, and murder. About 5000 AKs or ARs in the hands of property owners would put a stop to this crap.