To All AR Builders Under 21

[following2dp]

Just read this in the legal section on AR15.com.

AR15.COM :: Forums :: Receiver Sales are 21+ ONLY - Effective 11-15-08


This really sucks, saying I was planning on getting several lowers from the group buy.

I turn 21 in June, lets just see how high the prices of AR15 lowers will be in June

Who the hell is passing these laws anyways? Guess I'll have time to build my new uppers.


Who in the Indy area has lowers in stock for 125 and under? I know I saw lowers at the 1500 for around that price.

 

[NateIU10]

No laws have changed, the ATF's interpretation has

I turn 21 in August, so I'll have to make due with my 1 lower I've got left til then

 

[rcuhljr]

Yay for being old?

 

[following2dp]

No laws have changed, the ATF's interpretation has

I turn 21 in August, so I'll have to make due with my 1 lower I've got left til then

True, Still sucks for some of us.

 

[imprimis5]

*Sigh* I remember being younger than 21. Sometimes I forget that I'm not anymore, and that's usually when I end up hurting my back (or my knees, or...).

 

[Jerry]

That's rediculous, after the 15th I would have to wait 4 days until I could buy an AR lower....

 

[Zephri]

Well good thing I'm not much of an ar guy, One receiver will have to do till dec 3.


Ps, suck it atf:fawk:

 

[Bill of Rights]

I don't know. Since it's not till the 15th, I don't see that there'd be a huge problem with someone who is 21+ purchasing lowers now and holding them, selling them private party to someone who is presently under 21 only after that birthday. It's not a straw purchase, I don't think, so long as it's not delivered until 21+, and that allows the better deal to be made now. In fact, (01 FFLs, please correct me if I am mistaken)I would think that if you paid the FFL for it now and got a receipt for the money, you could bring in the paid receipt and pick up your receiver after 11/15 and after the birthday in question and still be legal. That's win/win: You get the good deal you want, the FFL gets the money now and delivers the product later, and ATF has no dog in the fight because their interpretation of the law has not been violated.

Blessings,
B

 

[nofear]

That seems logical to me

 

[ryanmercer]

Woo hoo I'm old enough to buy a lower, but not old enough to rent a car without getting reamed (I'm 23).

 

[ashylarry]

thats fcuking stupid.

 

[NateIU10]

thats fcuking stupid.

Obviously. It IS the ATF

 

[Sinner Man]

I know this is an old thread- it was listed under a thread I was reading.

You can buy an AR15 receiver as a rifle.

Under 21 means you can't buy a pistol. You never could. The ATF didn't change laws OR interpretations. The "interpretation" always was that if you are under 21 you cannot buy a pistol through an FFL. So don't expect your FFL to transfer any AR receiver to you unless it is sold as a rifle.

Same rules as always.

When your teacher in school rephrased or repeated something in a way that you would understand, did you call her/him ****ing stupid?

 

[shooter521]

Under 21 means you can't buy a pistol. You never could. The ATF didn't change laws OR interpretations. The "interpretation" always was that if you are under 21 you cannot buy a pistol through an FFL. So don't expect your FFL to transfer any AR receiver to you unless it is sold as a rifle.

Same rules as always.

Understand this - we are not (NOT) going to rehash the same arguments and bickering from the thread on this topic I just closed, or this thread will meet the same fate.

 

[Sinner Man]

Yep I sure hope not. I found this one before that one was closed. These guys seemed to have a sensible discussion going on. I thought I'd respond with facts here and not any opinion that got people confused last time.

 

[lancinator]

my guess on the 21 age limit might be that since you can have an AR in a pistol, maybe that is why it's 21 cuz i think you have to by 21 for pistol anythings.

 

[Michiana]

21 and pistols

my guess on the 21 age limit might be that since you can have an AR in a pistol, maybe that is why it's 21 cuz i think you have to by 21 for pistol anythings.

A FFL cannot sell a handgun to any individual under the age of twenty one but a person over 18 and under 21 can buy a handgun in a FTF deal as long as the buyer and seller follows the rules for any gun sale.

Because a AR lower receiver can be made into a pistol the FFL can only sell a complete lower that includes a rifle stock, period.

 

[NateIU10]

A Lower is a "receiver". The exception for purchasing firearms under the age of 21 from an FFL only applies to the purchase of Rifles and shotguns specifically. Therefore, a receiver is not an exemption. The old 4473s didn't have the "Receiver" check box for the type of firearm being bought, so most FFLs would put AR lowers as "Rifle".