Thoughts on cars going all electric?

[Jaybird1980]

They are all clueless morons. Hey, we have an overloaded resource. So now lets force MORE people to use that resource and abandon the "unlimited" resource they are using.

They are not clueless, they know exactly what they are doing.

Creating a disaster and then demand the Fed rescue them and they get a boatload of Fed money.

Hmmm, wonder where all that Fed money comes from. It's just another power grab.

 

[nonobaddog]

Stolen from 04FXSTS in the Funny Picture thread.

 

[Billythekid]

Brandon has spoken! He wants all cars to be electric powered. Has he even thought what that would do to the power grids across the nation?

THE TRUTH I read several post and did not see anything about the truth about pushing electric cars on us.. It is all about controlling travel you can not store electricity in cans, drum or tanks... If they cut or limit you electric power your not going any where... I drive a truck that gets 15mpg with a 35 gal. tank = 525 mile range, if you add five 5 gal. gas cans = 25 extra gal. or 375 additional miles for a total of 900miles... This is what they are trying to stop FREEDOM OF TRAVEL!!!

 

[1gunaholic]

THE TRUTH I read several post and did not see anything about the truth about pushing electric cars on us.. It is all about controlling travel you can not store electricity in cans, drum or tanks... If they cut or limit you electric power your not going any where... I drive a truck that gets 15mpg with a 35 gal. tank = 525 mile range, if you add five 5 gal. gas cans = 25 extra gal. or 375 additional miles for a total of 900miles... This is what they are trying to stop FREEDOM OF TRAVEL!!!

FACT SHEET: The Biden-Harris Electric Vehicle Charging Action Plan | The White House

Vice President Kamala Harris to Announce Action Plan that Fast Tracks Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Investments President Biden has united automakers and autoworkers to drive American leadership forward on clean cars, and he set an ambitious target of 50% of electric vehicle (EV) sale shares in...

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[jake blue]

THE TRUTH I read several post and did not see anything about the truth about pushing electric cars on us.. It is all about controlling travel you can not store electricity in cans, drum or tanks... If they cut or limit you electric power your not going any where... I drive a truck that gets 15mpg with a 35 gal. tank = 525 mile range, if you add five 5 gal. gas cans = 25 extra gal. or 375 additional miles for a total of 900miles... This is what they are trying to stop FREEDOM OF TRAVEL!!!

To what end though? We're already tracked like lab rats by our smart phones and smart cars and even going 900 miles doesn't take us out of range of the pervasive surveillance state so why exactly do you propose they want to shorten the leash? I'm just trying to understand the endgame.

 

[LANShark42]

My thoughts are:

1) Electric vehicles are a good solution for many situations, but not all.

2) If electric cars work better for people, they will buy them. If not, they won't. Funny how that works.

3) If leftists didn't get so weirded out by the word "nuclear", we would probably have a lot more and cheaper electricity by now.

4) The government will inevitably delay the forced electrification because the most important thing to them is announcing the change, not implementing it.

Your 4th point hit the nail on the head. Libs have zero interest in real solutions. Their only concern is the ILLUSION of a solution. And God help those who won't see the emperor's new clothes...

 

[Cameramonkey]

FACT SHEET: The Biden-Harris Electric Vehicle Charging Action Plan | The White House

Vice President Kamala Harris to Announce Action Plan that Fast Tracks Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Investments President Biden has united automakers and autoworkers to drive American leadership forward on clean cars, and he set an ambitious target of 50% of electric vehicle (EV) sale shares in...

www.whitehouse.gov

I hear they are also going to distribute drinking fountains all along the border to help the illegals cross safely through the wild desert without getting dehydrated.

Now granted there are no wells or water sources for the fountains, but he's having fountains installed anyway. They'll be able to drink even though there is no water source.

 

[wsmith1indy]

Brandon has spoken! He wants all cars to be electric powered. Has he even thought what that would do to the power grids across the nation?

There are so many problems with the electric car idea. I totally agree we need to reduce our dependance on fossil fuels. The only way to do this this with Nuclear Power Plants. But we need trusted security around them. I'm not sure we can trust some of the people in our military at this point.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

THE TRUTH I read several post and did not see anything about the truth about pushing electric cars on us.. It is all about controlling travel you can not store electricity in cans, drum or tanks... If they cut or limit you electric power your not going any where... I drive a truck that gets 15mpg with a 35 gal. tank = 525 mile range, if you add five 5 gal. gas cans = 25 extra gal. or 375 additional miles for a total of 900miles... This is what they are trying to stop FREEDOM OF TRAVEL!!!

You store electricity all the time. That's what a battery is, stored electricity.

Which is easier for you to make at home, electricity or gasoline?

 

[KLB]

Methane!

 

[JeepHammer]

Here is a tip. When shopping for cars, you don't have to count parts at all. The cars have numbers associated with them. The numbers of dollars is the price. The numbers for electric cars are higher than the others, that means they cost more.

This is so obvious that even our ****ed up government knows this. That is why they kick in thousands of dollars for each purchase of the more expensive electric car. That means every tax payer in America is helping Joe Blow buy his car. Kind of like socialism for vehicles.

And once again, incorrect.

EVs cost more because there aren't any entry level vehicles available.
It's the 12 way power seats, bun warmers, internet connectivity, back up cameras in the 'Entertainment' systems, etc.

Why an 'Entertainment' system when you are supposed to be watching the road????

If COVID hadn't happened, I'd have my first EV mini-truck from China...
$2,700 -$3,500 delivered to the US, plus cost to get it to Indiana from port of entry.
Now they are $12,000 *IF* you can get one at all.

You can't buy a reasonable size, basic pick-up anymore...
Everything made in the US are oversized (tiny penis) vehicles loaded with crap that costs a fortune to replace when it breaks down, and it's going to break down.
That's if the frame doesn't rust through before you get the stupid high purchase price paid off...

 

[JeepHammer]

You store electricity all the time. That's what a battery is, stored electricity.

Which is easier for you to make at home, electricity or gasoline?

Um... No.

Batteries don't 'Store Electricity'.
Batteries CONVERT electrical energy into chemical energy through an electrochemical process.

The 'Storage' is chemical, not electrical.

When electrical output is demanded, the chemical energy is converted back into electrical energy.
Again, another electrochemical process.

That's why lead/acid batteries are so inefficient,
Conversion losses from electrical to chemical,
Then chemical back to electrical.

Now I see why the 'Average' person doesn't understand why the new battery chemistries are an order of magnitude better than lead/acid, they don't understand the process, just observe results and make false assumptions from those observations.

... Like medieval 'Christian Science',
Dirt got rain soaked, frogs appeared.

The assumption was water & dirt made frogs.

Or when someone got sick, it was a demon or evil spirit making them sick not a virus, bacteria, etc.

Too bad this thinking is still alive and well...

 

[HoughMade]

Anyways....

 

[Leadeye]

I suspect down the road you'll see a chinese company offer a new concept in transportation. A cheap electric car that you don't own, all vehicles will be leased. When you get to a certain time or miles you have to turn the car back in at the dealership. The old cars go back to the factory and are refurbished, much as is done with Abrams tanks, and returned to the dealership to be leased again. Service life of parts will be engineered around the lease time to reduce the possibility of local maintenance.

 

[jake blue]

I suspect down the road you'll see a chinese company offer a new concept in transportation. A cheap electric car that you don't own, all vehicles will be leased. When you get to a certain time or miles you have to turn the car back in at the dealership. The old cars go back to the factory and are refurbished, much as is done with Abrams tanks, and returned to the dealership to be leased again. Service life of parts will be engineered around the lease time to reduce the possibility of local maintenance.

Or Uber/Lyft will just become the de facto mode of personal transportation.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Or Uber/Lyft will just become the de facto mode of personal transportation.

I'll never figure out how Uber/Lyft came into being. Taxi companies have to be ticked. Taxis require special licensing, etc., but anybody with a car and a clean driving record can become an Uber/Lyft driver.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I'll never figure out how Uber/Lyft came into being. Taxi companies have to be ticked. Taxis require special licensing, etc., but anybody with a car and a clean driving record can become an Uber/Lyft driver.

They are massively ticked. Stories of ubers being attacked by taxi drivers, taxi companies flexing their muscle in some cities to force rideshares out (via friendly lawmakers)so taxis dont lose $$$ etc.

 

[Ingomike]

I'll never figure out how Uber/Lyft came into being. Taxi companies have to be ticked. Taxis require special licensing, etc., but anybody with a car and a clean driving record can become an Uber/Lyft driver.

The power of the people. Uber/Lyft started fast under the radar and quickly gained massive popularity with the right people, people the blue city mayors could not tell no to. When the cabs started complaining it was too late…

 

[cbhausen]

Um... No.

Batteries don't 'Store Electricity'.
Batteries CONVERT electrical energy into chemical energy through an electrochemical process.

The 'Storage' is chemical, not electrical.

When electrical output is demanded, the chemical energy is converted back into electrical energy.
Again, another electrochemical process.

That's why lead/acid batteries are so inefficient,
Conversion losses from electrical to chemical,
Then chemical back to electrical.

Now I see why the 'Average' person doesn't understand why the new battery chemistries are an order of magnitude better than lead/acid, they don't understand the process, just observe results and make false assumptions from those observations.

... Like medieval 'Christian Science',
Dirt got rain soaked, frogs appeared.

The assumption was water & dirt made frogs.

Or when someone got sick, it was a demon or evil spirit making them sick not a virus, bacteria, etc.

Too bad this thinking is still alive and well...

I have avoided addressing you directly until now. You’re obviously a well-informed person with strong beliefs. And did you ever stop to consider your message might get through to more people if you weren’t so damn condescending, talking the most of us like we are damn idiots?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Um... No.

Batteries don't 'Store Electricity'.
Batteries CONVERT electrical energy into chemical energy through an electrochemical process.

Next you'll tell me batteries can't be dead because they were never actually alive. If I said your car needs gas to make it move, would you walk me through chemical energy to kinetic energy? Functionally, it's a bucket o' electricity but I think none of here are so stupid as to think that all batteries are somehow the same because of that.