Step by Step Guide: How to manufacture Probable Cause

[level.eleven]

Officer, may I ask what probable cause you have for a "taking" of my personal property, and additionally exposing me to a greater risk of personal injury standing along the side of a very busy highway?

or

Officer, the longer you detain me without cause along this busy highway, the greater you are placing me as well as yourself in serious personal danger. You suggest (as I recall from the video, anyway) hitching a ride, or waiting for me to get alternative transportation. Are you willing to take personal, as well as departmental responsibility for any negative consequences of your actions?

Waaaaay too much talking.

 

[serpicostraight]

I'll have to give the video another view. Perhaps my timeline is skewed. I have been thinking about this while watching basketball all day. I thought it came before the tactic of - here is your warning, hey mind if I ask you some questions?

I don't know why I find this cat and mouse so fascinating, but do you think this search could have been avoided?

only if andy and barney had a real job. sitting in a car eating doughnuts all day gives you plenty of time for stuff like this.

 

[IndyDave1776]

This in addition to cumulative life experience leads me to the conclusion that there are few good ways to get around crooked cops hell-bent on checking your pockets.

 

[IN_Sheepdog]

Waaaaay too much talking.

Lawyers... yes we have a habit of doing that... but hey... I am a child of the 60's... QUESTION AUTHORITY

 

[rambone]

only if andy and barney had a real job. sitting in a car eating doughnuts all day gives you plenty of time for stuff like this.

Andy and Barney were better than these two reprobates.

 

[rambone]

 

[BBill]

Two PUNK cops--set phasers to kill not stun Scotty!!

 

[dross]

Natural rights, and rights guaranteed by the Constitution are obstacles to efficient law enforcement. I'm glad to see that our motivated and creative LEOs have figured out ways to overcome these problems and get their jobs done. Who cares if a couple of fat Trekkie geeks (who are obviously jerks for recording and posting this) got held by the side of the road for a while? If they weren't doing something wrong this time, they probably got away with something in the past. I hope everyone remembers that this is an isolated incident, and that the cops were just trying to get home to their families safe that day.

 

[1911 DeadHead]

Natural rights, and rights guaranteed by the Constitution are obstacles to efficient law enforcement. I'm glad to see that our motivated and creative LEOs have figured out ways to overcome these problems and get their jobs done. Who cares if a couple of fat Trekkie geeks (who are obviously jerks for recording and posting this) got held by the side of the road for a while? If they weren't doing something wrong this time, they probably got away with something in the past. I hope everyone remembers that this is an isolated incident, and that the cops were just trying to get home to their families safe that day.

What?! These men's rights were thrown in a ditch on this fishing expedition. I really hope you were being sarcastic. Otherwise you sound moronic. These guys being star trek fans have nothing to do with anything. They are American citizens.

 

[ryknoll3]

Some people cant recognize sarcasm....

 

[KG1]

What?! These men's rights were thrown in a ditch on this fishing expedition. I really hope you were being sarcastic. Otherwise you sound moronic. These guys being star trek fans have nothing to do with anything. They are American citizens.

I get the impression that you've not read many of dross's posts before and do not recognize the style in which it's intended. Seems to me that it was made in the spirit of purple.

 

[1911 DeadHead]

Some people cant recognize sarcasm....

Sometimes you never know. Some real loones on this forum.

 

[1911 DeadHead]

I get the impression that you've not read many of dross's posts before and do not recognize the style in which it's intended. Seems to me that it was made in the spirit of purple.

Sure as hell puts alot of effort in his sarcasm, it almost seemed like a legitimate thought. Sorry for the outburst.

 

[dross]

Sure as hell puts alot of effort in his sarcasm, it almost seemed like a legitimate thought. Sorry for the outburst.

If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. Even sarcasm.

There's a history at play here. What I wrote is a reworking of many common arguments I've read on this site when someone posts a video of cops being naughty.

The Trekkie thing I threw in gratuitously.

Gotta watch your step here in the politics forum. Flying tinfoil, government conspiracies, and cops who will beat you down if it gets them home safe at night are the rule of the day.

As to purple, that's for nancy-boys.

 

[Liberty Sanders]

Agree, they are extremely disconcerting.

I do wish the General Assembly would consider my proposal. I know of no other fix.

Any suggestions from you, Liberty, or anyone else would be appreciated.

Pard, don't hold your breath.

These dogs are big money-makers, especially for any podunk department that has turned their few miles of expressway into a for-profit operation.

Any attempt to make them more accountable will result in whining from LEO administrators that they're being "handcuffed" in their pursuit of the noble Drug War. After all, it's "for the children."

 

[rambone]

He asked the same question about drugs in the car at least 128 times.

Best response?

 

[steveh_131]

He asked the same question about drugs in the car at least 128 times.

Best response?

I think it was awfully nice of the officer to offer the guy a break for 'personal amounts' of marijuana. It's nice that he would have just let him go if he 'fessed up to it.

 

[rw496]

Any money seized by police departments in this state is turned over to the State's school fund. The only money departments are allowed to keep is the law enforcement costs associated with that case....theoretically.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

He asked the same question about drugs in the car at least 128 times.

Best response?

Am I free to go?

 

[dross]

He asked the same question about drugs in the car at least 128 times.

Best response?

"I want to leave. Anything you do from this point forward is done without my consent."