South Bend, IN

[cklein6576]

Thats why I call it Gary east.

Its the city goverment. They dont care to address the problems, and now the problems are moving into mishawaka. Oddly enough the 46601 (downtown) zip has one of the lowest crime rates.

Im in the county by about 500 yards and have not had any trouble having anything shipped to my south bend address.

I keep hoping for the day that Mishawaka annexes crappy South Bend and fixes it. At some point you would think they would vote a Republican in there but I guess the thugs get bussed in to vote or something.

 

[00BlasterResto]

Twenty Five years ago I had relocated my young family to the West side of Southbend on Lawndale Ave. We rented a house in this area thinking it was a decent neighborhood. The day we moved in there was a teenager running across the lawn with a bunch of kids chasing him. I said to my wife "aww... Look honey the kids are playing." Ten minutes later they came back the other direction. This time the punks all had wooden bats and pipes. I thought to myself we had moved to the wrong neighborhood.

During the next year there were 12 car break ins including our vehicle. Some Cady even had their dash laying on the lawn in the morning. But what took the cake was that they poisoned my favorite dog. I don't know how anyone could ever do that. I miss my dog Rusty but I don't miss the punks.

I don't know what is wrong with SB. You have Notre Dame there and St. Mary's. You would think that this would make it a great college town. Evidently the problem is too big.

Sorry to hear about Rusty...
I have thought of that alot, I wonder how many kids come from who knows where thinking "oh the greate Notre Dame this is going to be so fun" and find themselves in .. well...... South Bend

 

[HollidaySlim]

I have had 30 round mags shipped to me from brownells with my South Bend address. I live about 3 miles from the city limits (almost to New Carlisle).

I hate actually going into the city of South Bend now. I have to drive down western ave to get to my office and I gotta tell ya its getting as bad a Lincoln Way West. My family grew up on the west side and have been around this area since the earlier 1920's (all Polish immigrants with my parents being the first natural born US citizens of their respective families)

I go to the St. Joe Young Mens Polish Club (by the corner of western ave and olive st) on occasion and I swear that I am the only one speaking English in a 3 mile radius. Kinda sad really the west side used to be some really nice neighborhoods.

 

[weaverml34]

Can't remember the website, it was either Midwest or Cheaper than Dirt that they won't ship anything more than a 10 round magazine for pistols to South Bend. I think they have a city ordinance that you can't have more than a 10 round mag for pistols as well.

 

[Lex Concord]

Citys and Twp can enact laws that are stricter than state law but not more lenient!!

Actually:

IC 35-47-11
Chapter 11. Local Regulation of Firearms
IC 35-47-11-1
Applicability of chapter
Sec. 1. (a) Section 2 of this chapter applies to all units (as defined in IC 36-1-2-23). All other sections of this chapter apply to all units other than townships.
(b) This chapter applies only if a statute expressly grants a legislative body the authority to adopt an emergency ordinance under this chapter.
(c) This chapter does not affect the validity of an ordinance adopted before, and in effect on, January 1, 1994.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.13.

IC 35-47-11-2
Regulation of firearms by units other than townships

Sec. 2. Notwithstanding IC 36-1-3, a unit may not regulate in any manner the ownership, possession, sale, transfer, or transportation of firearms (as defined in IC 35-47-1-5) or ammunition except as follows:

(1) This chapter does not apply to land, buildings, or other real property owned or administered by a unit, except highways (as defined in IC 8-23-1-23) or public highways (as defined in IC 8-2.1-17-14).

(2) Notwithstanding the limitation in this section, a unit may use the unit's planning and zoning powers under IC 36-7-4 to prohibit the sale of firearms within two hundred (200) feet of a school by a person having a business that did not sell firearms within two hundred (200) feet of a school before April 1, 1994.

(3) Notwithstanding the limitation in this section, a legislative body of a unit other than a township may adopt an emergency ordinance or a unit other than a township may take other action allowed under section 6 of this chapter to regulate the sale of firearms anywhere within the unit for a period of not more than seventy-two (72) hours after the regulatory action takes effect.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.13.

Read the full chapter...

 

[5.56'aholic]

South Bend is nothing but a rotting cesspool of crime, corruption and chicago style politics. I have never been to a city with such blatant disregard for safety of its citizens, as the first threat for every budget cut is the police and fire departments.

 

[one more]

Yes South Bend is the worst city in the State of Indiana. Here is the works for South Bend. I was going to put some quotes in here but did not want to get too long. It is to long as it is.


Municipal Code of the
City of South Bend
Chapter 13. Offenses and Miscellaneous
Provisions
Article 10. Selected Weapons and
Instruments of Violence Prohibited
Division 1. Loaded Assault Weapons
Prohibited.
13-95. Definitions.​

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The following definitions
shall apply throughout this Article:​

(a) Ammunition​

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shall mean any ammunition
cartridge, shell or other device containing explosive
or incendiary material and designed and
intended for use in any firearm.​

(b) Assault Weapons​

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shall mean and include:​

(1)​

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Any center fire rifle with automatic action
or semi-automatic action or revolving cylinder
weapon, or carbine which accepts a detachable
magazine with a capacity of over fifteen (15)
rounds;​

(2)​

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Any semiautomatic shotgun with a magazine
capacity of more than nine (9) rounds;​

(3)​

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Firearms as defined in Indiana Code § 35-
47-1-5, which have threads, lugs, or other characteristics
which are designed to facilitate the
direct attachment of a silencer, bayonet, grenade
launcher, flash suppressor, or folding stock
to the firearm; and​

(4)​

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Any part or combination of parts designed
to facilitate the attachment of a silencer, bayonet,
grenade launcher, flash suppressor, or folding
stock to a firearm; and​

(5)​

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A detachable magazine, drum, belt, feed
strip, or similar device which has a capacity of,
or can be readily restored or converted to accept
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more than fifteen (15) rounds of ammunition;
and​

(6)​

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Any combination of parts which are designed
and intended solely and exclusively for
assembling a firearm defined to be an assault
weapon as defined above, or from which an assault
weapon could be assembled into an operable
assault weapon if such parts are located in
the possession or under the control of one (l)
person.​

(c) Automatic​

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shall describe the mechanically
self-acting of a weapon in which the spent
cartridge is ejected, and the weapon reloaded
and fired, by the action of the gas generated in
firing or by the force of the recoil, resulting in the
weapon continuing to fire as long as the trigger
is depressed.​

(d) Chambered​

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shall mean ready to fire.​

(e) Community Correction Officer​

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shall
mean any person employed by a governmental
agency to oversee individuals who are in
custody for alleged violation or convicted of a
violation of the law.​

(f) Dealer​

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shall have the meaning set forth in
Indiana Code § 35-47-1-3.​

(g) Firearms​

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shall have the meaning set forth
in Indiana Code § 35-47-1-5.​

(h) Magazine​

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shall mean a storage place for
ammunition which acts as a receptacle for cartridges
which are to be fed into the breech or
chamber of a rifle, shotgun, or other weapon.​

(i) Minor​

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shall mean any person who is under
eighteen (18) years of age.​

(j) Person​

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shall mean any individual, corporation,
company, association, firm, partnership,
club or society.​

(k) Rifle​

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shall mean a weapon designed or redesigned,
made or remade, and usually fired
from the shoulder which has spiral grooves cut
in the bore to use the energy of ammunition.​

(l) Secured​

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shall mean out of reach and in a
safe condition.​

(m) Security guard services​

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shall mean an
entity or individual that engages in the business
of providing security guard service to the public
for hire.​

(n) Semi-automatic​

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shall mean any weapon
which fires a single projectile for each single pull
of the trigger and which employs a magazine.​

(o) Shooting or firing range​

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shall mean a
place for target practice with firearms.​

(p) Shotgun​

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shall have the meanings set
forth in Indiana Code § 35-47-1-11.​

13-96. Exceptions.
(a)​

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This division shall not apply to any person
listed as an "expected person" in Indiana Code §
35-47-2-2; individuals regulated and approved
by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
(BATF); community correction officers, and individuals
properly licensed or authorized by a
BATF stamp to use such weapons in a City licensed
shooting or firing range properly
equipped and zoned for the use of such weapons.
Such individuals shall be required to provide
valid proof of their status as an exception to
this Division upon reasonable request.​

(b)​

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The definition of "assault weapon" as set
forth in Section 13-91 [sic] shall not include any
of the following:​

(1)​

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Weapons that do not use fixed ammunition,
weapons that were in production prior to
1898, manually operated bolt-action weapons,
lever-action weapons, slide-action weapons,
single-shot weapons, semiautomatic weapons
which use exclusively manalicher-style clips
semiautomatic weapons manufactured prior to
1954, and rimfire weapons that employ a tubular
magazine.​

(2)​

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Any antique or relic firearm;​

(3)​

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Any assault weapon which has been modified
either to render it permanently inoperable or
to permanently make it a device no longer defined
as an assault weapon.​

(c)​

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Any assault weapon may be possessed by
any federal, state, county or local historical society,
museum or educational institution of higher
learning which is open to the public, provided
such assault weapon is properly housed and secured
from unauthorized handling and is always
kept unloaded.​

13-97. Restrictions on the possession and
manufacturing of assault weapons.
(a)​

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No person may manufacture any assault
weapon, as defined herein, within the City of
South Bend.​

(b)​

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No person may possess any loaded assault
weapon, as defined herein, within the City
of South Bend, except as specifically provided
herein.​

(c)​

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No person may manufacture or possess
any magazine with a capacity of more than fifteen
(15) rounds for assault weapons within the
City of South Bend, except as specifically provided
herein.​

13-98. Requirements for transporting and
possessing unloaded assault weapons.
(a)​

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Any person who owns any assault weapon
as defined herein must:​

(1)​

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Keep a flag safety (i.e., plastic tie or chamber
plug) properly in place so that the chamber
is plugged resulting in the firing pin being
blocked at all times;​

(2)​

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Keep said assault weapon unloaded at all
times; and​

(3)​

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Keep said assault weapon in a gun slip,
glove, or case so that it is inoperable and secured
at all times with a gun tie or padlock;
except when using such weapon at a City licensed
shooting or firing range as specifically
provided herein.​

(b)​

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Any person who owns any assault weapon
must keep all of its ammunition and magazines
separate from the assault weapon, and in a secured
container, except as specifically provided
herein.​

13-99. Penalties; confiscation and destruction
of assault weapons.
(a)​

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Any person who violates any of the provisions
of this Division shall be fined a minimum of
two hundred and fifty dollars ($250.00) and up to
a maximum of two thousand five hundred dollars
($2,500.00) for each and every violation.​

(b)​

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The owner of an assault weapon found
with a seated magazine shall be fined two hundred
fifty dollars ($250.00), and if a round is
chambered an additional one hundred dollars
($100.00) shall be assessed for each round in
the chamber and the magazine.​

(c)​

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Any loaded assault weapon or weapons,
and/or any magazine with a capacity of more
than fifteen (15) rounds found in violation of this
division shall be seized and confiscated.​

(d)​

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Additionally, any person found in violation
of this division shall be required to attend and
successfully complete a minimum of two (2)
educational seminars on firearms safety and
perform a minimum of twenty (20) hours of community
service for each violation. Said seminars
shall be conducted by the South Bend Police
Department and/or the City's duly authorized
agent.​

(e)​

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Penalties up to a total of two thousand five
hundred dollars ($2,500.00) for all citations,
seminar fees and fines may be imposed upon an
adult when found in violation of this division for
each and every violation.​

Division 2. Access to Firearms by Minors
Prohibited
13-103. Definitions.​

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The definitions set forth
in Division I of this Article, where applicable,
shall be binding on the interpretation and enforcement
of this division.​

13-104. Parent and legal guardian required
to properly store firearms/ammunition; dealers
to conspicuously display signs.
(a)​

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No person, including but not limited to parent(
s) or legal guardian(s), shall store, leave, or
give a loaded or unloaded firearm(s) and ammunition
used by such firearm(s) in any place
where the person knows, or reasonably should
know based on the totality of the circumstances,
that a minor is able to gain access to such firearm(
s) and/or ammunition.​

(b)​

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All persons purchasing firearm(s) within
the city, must provide written proof that he or
she has successfully completed a National Rifle
Association (or comparable agency) firearms
safety instruction program on the proper use and
storage of such firearm(s). Written proof of such
training must be turned into the front desk of the
South Bend Police Department within sixty (60)
days from the date of said purchase.​

(c)​

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Any licensed firearm dealer doing business
in the city must conspicuously post, at
every purchase counter in every store, shop, or
sales outlet, signs with the following warning in
block letters not less than one (1) inch in height:
"IT IS A VIOLATION OF CITY OF SOUTH
BEND CODE § 13-100 TO STORE OR LEAVE
A FIREARM AND AMMUNITION WHERE
CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN
(18) YEARS OF AGE CAN OBTAIN ACCESS."
"ALL PERSONS PURCHASING FIREARMS
ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE TO THE
SOUTH BEND POLICE DEPARTMENT WRITTEN
PROOF OF SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETING
AN APPROVED FIREARMS SAFETY INSTRUCTION
SESSION ON THE PROPER USE
AND STORAGE OF SUCH FIREARMS WITHIN
SIXTY (60) DAYS OF DATE OF PURCHASE."
Such warnings shall also be distributed by such
licensed firearm dealer to each firearm purchaser
at the time of the sale of a firearm.​

(d)​

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This section shall not apply when:​

(1)​

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A minor's access to a firearm and its ammunition
is under the supervision or control of a
responsible adult for purposes of lawful hunting
or instruction in firearms safety, care, handling,
or marksmanship;​

(2)​

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A minor has access to a firearm and its
ammunition as a result of an unlawful entry into
the place in which the firearm was found;​

(3)​

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A minor obtains a firearm and its ammunition
in a lawful act of self-defense or defense of
another person or persons within a domicile; or​

(4)​

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A minor, without permission of the lawful
possessor of a firearm and its ammunition, obtains
the firearm from the possessor's body,
when the possessor is unable to prevent the removal
of said firearm from his or her person.​

13-105. Penalties/ citations/ educational
training sessions required for parents,
guardians, dealers and minors found in violation.
(a)​

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Any parent or guardian whose firearm gets
in the wrongful possession of a minor shall be
considered in violation of this division. Said parent
or guardian shall be issued an ordinance violation
citation with a fine of one hundred dollars
($100.00) for each offense, and said firearm
shall be confiscated.​

(b)​

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Any person who fails to provide written
proof that he or she has successfully completed
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a National Rifle Association (or comparable
agency) approved firearms safety instruction
program on the proper and storage of such firearm(
s) required by Section 13-100 [sic] shall be
considered in violation of this division. An ordinance
violation citation shall be issued with a
fine of fifty dollars ($50.00), and the firearm shall
be confiscated. ... Firearms confiscated under
this paragraph shall be returned to the owner
only upon said owner showing proof that he or
she is the lawful owner and that said person has
since successfully completed a National Rifle
Association (or comparable agency) on firearms
safety instruction program addressing the proper
use and storage of firearms.​

(c)​

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Any licensed firearm dealer who fails to
properly display the signs required in Section
13-100 [sic] shall be considered in violation of
that section. Each day and each location required
to have such signage which is not in compliance
with Section 13-100 [sic], shall be considered
a separate offense for which a separate
citation may be issued. Said licensed firearm
dealer shall be issued an ordinance violation
citation with fines of twenty-five dollars ($25.00)
for the first violation, and fifty dollar ($50.00)
fines for all subsequent violations. ...
(d) In addition to adult violators being issued
ordinance violation citation(s), any such person
found in violation of this division shall be required
to attend and successfully complete a
minimum of two (2) educational seminars on
firearms safety and perform a minimum of twenty
(20) hours of community service for each violation.
Said seminars shall be conducted by the
South Bend Police Department and/or the City's
duly authorized agent. All costs related to said
seminars shall be paid by the violator.​

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Any firearm, found in the possession of a
minor, shall be confiscated, and the South Bend
Police Department shall be immediately contacted.
Said minor shall be required to attend
and successfully complete a minimum of two (2)
educational seminars specifically focusing on
minors and safety awareness. Said seminars
shall be conducted by the South Bend Police
Department and/or the City's duly authorized
agent. All costs related to said safety awareness
seminars shall be paid by said minor's parent(s)
or guardian(s). Additionally, said minor shall be
required to write, in his or her own handwriting, a
minimum of a two-page report on safety awareness
and perform a minimum of twenty (20)
hours of community service for each violation,
with credit being given against the community
service hours for reports deemed acceptable by
the department of the City's agent. Said report
must be turned into the principal of the minor's
school within seventy-two (72) hours of successfully
completing the last seminar. Copies of such
reports with the name of the minor being held
confidential, shall be sent to the Common Council's
Health and Public Safety Committee on the
last business day of the month when said seminar
was held. Quarterly Committee reports shall
be given on the progress of such youth educational
safety awareness seminars.​

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Penalties up to a total of two thousand five
hundred dollars ($2,500.00) for all citations,
seminar fees and fines may be imposed upon an
adult when found in violation of this division for
each and every violation.​

[Municipal Code of the City of South Bend
codified through Ord. 9783-7 enacted Sept.​

10, 2007]

 

[critter592]

Good lord does this mean as a LTCH we can't carry in South Bend. Reading all that made my head hurt. I really couldn't tell if a semi-auto handgun was classified as an assault weapon. Just says if it can accept a magazine that has more than 15 rounds it's an assult weapon. So as long as no magazine is ever manufactured (regardless if I ever own one) for my USP compact then my handgun is not an assault weapon?

 

[HollidaySlim]

Yes South Bend is the worst city in the State of Indiana.

Ummm have you been to Gary / Hammond recently?? How about Indy or Ft. Wayne. South Bend is not great but it's not the worst by far.

 

[HollidaySlim]

Good lord does this mean as a LTCH we can't carry in South Bend. Reading all that made my head hurt. I really couldn't tell if a semi-auto handgun was classified as an assault weapon. Just says if it can accept a magazine that has more than 15 rounds it's an assult weapon. So as long as no magazine is ever manufactured (regardless if I ever own one) for my USP compact then my handgun is not an assault weapon?

The way I read it (and thats not saying a whole lot ) handguns do not fall into the "assault weapon" category. How ever there is a statement in there about firearms that can receive silencers and such ( I'm guessing they are referring to threaded barrels). Who knows I am going to call them tomorrow and see if these ordinances are legit or not and if I can get some clarification on some of the confusing points.

 

[Redemption]

Ummmm...after reading the regulations, I don't think they can do that. Maybe we need to do something about this. If I lived there, no one would tell me how to store a gun in my house. The DC verdict should hold some water here. Perhaps we should raise a stink. I hate to think of fellow Hoosiers being subjected to Draconian laws right here in our state.

 

[HollidaySlim]

***Disclaimer - I am not a lawyer or an expert on gun laws. Anything posted from here on out might not be correct but is only how I interpret what I read.



OK so after a little google magic it appears that laws passed after Jan. 1st 1994 cannot trump state level law unless a state wide emergency is declared. So since the for mentioned ordinances were adopted Feb 21st 1994 it appears the are not valid. Please if I am wrong some one correct me. I am kinda new at understanding IN gun laws.

Firearm Preemption law read HERE

 

[ihateiraq]

Ummm have you been to Gary / Hammond recently?? How about Indy or Ft. Wayne. South Bend is not great but it's not the worst by far.

not the worst, but theyre trying as hard as possible to get there.

 

[Blue Tile Spook]

It seems that quite a few knuckleheads in Ft Wayne are trying their darndest to eliminate anyone seen as competition to whatever it is that they want - women, drugs, whatever. Several shootings here lately.

 

[5.56'aholic]

It seems that quite a few knuckleheads in Ft Wayne are trying their darndest to eliminate anyone seen as competition to whatever it is that they want - women, drugs, whatever. Several shootings here lately.

Only several? South Bend has had several on the weekends alone until as of late. I think there was on average three to four shooting a week from oct to nov, Only thing is, all of these idiots are poor shoots thankfully.

 

[jedi]

***Disclaimer - I am not a lawyer or an expert on gun laws. Anything posted from here on out might not be correct but is only how I interpret what I read.



OK so after a little google magic it appears that laws passed after Jan. 1st 1994 cannot trump state level law unless a state wide emergency is declared. So since the for mentioned ordinances were adopted Feb 21st 1994 it appears the are not valid. Please if I am wrong some one correct me. I am kinda new at understanding IN gun laws.

Firearm Preemption law read HERE

NOT AN ATTY

Your line of thinking is correct. Is the ordinance was on teh books prior to 01/01/1994 then it's OK and can be tougher than the state law. After that it's not OK and it's preempt per state law. East Chicago, IN has an "old" ordinance on it's book about no assault wepaons as well that was passed POST 01/01/94 yet it has never been challenged or used in court against anyone that i know of.

Suspect the same here. No one has challenged the ordinance or perhaps even told the current city board members. The companies are reading the ordinance at face value and just covering their butts. Similar to how some ammo online sellers just outright say NO AMMO to CA/IL period.

 

[HollidaySlim]

This is what I got back from the SBPD today...

This is still a valid City Ordinance. So that is correct.

This was written 16 years ago and was more designed at the time to conform to Federal firearms laws in that time. How this law would stand up to 2nd Amendment scrutiny in 2010 is anyone's guess.

My original e-mail

> I was looking through the South Bend code and stumble upon Ord. No.
> 8468-94,§ 1, 2-21-94 which states
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> “Sec. 13-97. Restrictions on the possession and manufacturing of
> assault weapons.
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> (a) No person may manufacture any assault weapon, as defined herein,
> within the City of South Bend.
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> (b) No person may possess any loaded assault weapon, as defined herein,
> within the City of South Bend, except as specifically provided herein.
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> (c) No person may manufacture or possess any magazine with a capacity of
> more than fifteen (15) rounds for assault weapons within the City of
> South Bend, except as specifically provided herein.
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> (Ord. No. 8468-94, § 1, 2-21-94)”
>
> Found HERE
<http://library4.municode.com/default-test/template.htm?view=browse&doc_action=setdoc&doc_keytype=tocid&doc_key=5968302d81c8443b06a470b329e99b33&infobase=13974>
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> Reading this I am to assume that it is illegal to own a magazine for
> an assault rifle that has a capacity of over 15 rounds in the city of South Bend. Is this correct?
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> Thank you for your time,
>

 

[one more]

I was ordering some Mags for the Mini 14 when I noticed Ruger said these magazines could not be shipped to South Bend, IN. When did this happen, and if it is true, why did I never hear anything about it? Did they mean South Bend Louisiana? I've seen a restriction notice for there also.

Ruger-Mini-14-Magazine-20-Shot-Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc.

Ummm have you been to Gary / Hammond recently?? How about Indy or Ft. Wayne. South Bend is not great but it's not the worst by far.

HollidaySlim, you need to reread the starting post, it is about Code not crime! South Bend is the worst city in the state of Indiana. The only other city with code in the ATF Book!! is Indianapolis/Marion County. And below is all of it from the Big City! A lot less then South Bend. Plus the State code for Firearms for all of us. This is from the ATF State Laws and Published Ordinances! Indiana Code startes on page 173 thru 180, Indianapolis/Marion County is on page 180, South Bend starts on page 180, is on page 181 and ends on page 182!
So talking about South Bend as being the worst city in the State of Indiana, they Win hands down!!


[Current through 2007 Regular Session]

Revised Code of the Consolidated City &
County of Indianapolis/Marion County
Title II. Public Order and Safety

Chapter 451. Weapons


451-4. Display of dangerous weapons. No
pistol, revolver or other dangerous weapon of a
similar character, which may be concealed and
carried upon the person, shall be displayed for
sale where it can be seen in or through any
window of any structure fronting on any street or
alley in the city.
451-5. Unlawful disposition of dangerous
weapons. No person shall sell, give, barter, exchange,
lend or otherwise dispose of, or place in
the possession of any known or suspected
habitual user of narcotics or any known or suspected
criminal or a person with criminal purpose,
any type of machine gun, sawed-off shotgun,
pistol or revolver, or ammunition therefor,
or any knucks, billy, sandbag, dagger, dirk, bowie
knife or stiletto, or any spring gun, sword cane
or any other dangerous weapon of any similar
character, which may be carried or concealed on
or about the person and which are commonly
used and fit to be used unlawfully to inflict harm
on or to any person; or any tools, devices or jimmies
commonly used for burglary. However, ordinary
pocketknives with blades not exceeding
five (5) inches in length and so known and sold
in legitimate trade shall not be included in the
terms of this section, and the provisions of this
section shall not apply to any military forces,
peace officers or other persons so excepted by
law for the possession, use or disposal of any
such things.
[Revised Code of the Consolidated City &
County of Indianapolis/Marion County codified
through Ord. 61, 2007]

 

[jedi]

This is what I got back from the SBPD today...


This is still a valid City Ordinance. So that is correct.

This was written 16 years ago and was more designed at the time to conform to Federal firearms laws in that time. How this law would stand up to 2nd Amendment scrutiny in 2010 is anyone's guess.

Maybe I missed it but I don't see the city's reply in your email chain?
If the law was not on the books by 01/01/94 then it's not good. It won't hold up in court since it's not excempt.

 

[01deuce]

I mentioned this to steve at Indiana Arms awhile back and i dont recall his exact words but i believe he told me this was something that either did not hold up or no longer applies and that some companies are not sure of the laws so they wont ship to south bend. If you look on some websites they list south bend as restricted for sale and other places dont list south bend as restricted.But by know means is this proof.