go to the A & A subforum in a couple days (im in the process of becomming a advertiser). im located in richmond and wil be more than happy to walk you threw the process for finding the peerfect scope for your needs in your budget. pm me, call me (765) 580-0986 email me alan@aaoptics.com. i have lots of experiance in the r&d area of scopes and am just opening my own store. let me know how i can help