Request - Dummy Rounds

[Greg.B]

Posted this on THR as well, but wanted to give a shout out to my fellow Hoosiers:

I thought this might be a good place to start on my search; I got this idea on another forum, and it really struck me as a great idea. I'm a hunter education instructor in Indiana, and am looking for various dummy rounds to use in the ammunition section of the class. These would obviously need to be empty cases (no primer or powder) with a bullet seated. I'm looking for a couple of each of various calibers to show the wide range available, as well as the similarities of some calibers to others.

The following calibers, legal in Indiana for hunting (I would prefer NON FMJ bullets in these to keep them as legal examples):
.357 Magnum
.41 Magnum
.44 Magnum
.44 Special
.44-40 Winchester
.45 Colt
.45 Long Colt
.45 Winchester Magnum
.454 Casull
.458 SOCOM
.480 Ruger
.475 Linebaugh
.50 Action Express
.500 S&W

The following examples could contain any type of bullet, as the caliber itself is not legal for hunting in Indiana:
.35 Remington
.357 Herrett
38 Special
38 Smith and Wesson
38 Colt New Police
38/200
38 Long Colt
38 Super
38 ACP
38 Colt Auto
45 ACP
45 Automatic
25/20
32/20
30 carbine
.30-30 Winchester
.444 Marlin
.45-70 Govt.

Would also appreciate ANY caliber you can offer, even if it's not on the above list. I'd also like to find some shotgun sabot/slug shells (10,12,16,20, and .410) for the same purpose, but not sure of the possibilities of making them look unfired while at the same time being empty.

So, is anyone willing to help out? If you are able to, shoot me a PM or reply here.

 

[Old Syko]

The following examples could contain any type of bullet, as the caliber itself is not legal for hunting in Indiana:
.35 Remington
.357 Herrett
38 Special
38 Smith and Wesson
38 Colt New Police
38/200
38 Long Colt
38 Super
38 ACP
38 Colt Auto
45 ACP
45 Automatic
25/20
32/20
30 carbine
.30-30 Winchester
.444 Marlin
.45-70 Govt.

If you are a hunter ed instructor in the state of Indiana, you are aware this statement is not true. 35 Remington, 357 Herrett, 30-30, 444, and 45-70 are perfectly legal for deer hunting, varmint hunting and others, as long as they are chambered in a handgun such as the TC Contender, Encore, Wichita, etc.

 

[karlsgunbunker]

Are you looking to buy or have them donated?

 

[Greg.B]

I stand corrected, and thank you for pointing out my mistake. In my haste of compiling the list of legal and illegal calibers for the state, I screwed it up by trying to condense the list into a short, easy to read format. I guess that's why I shouldn't try to copy and paste. I should also mention, that this list was taken from the 2008 firearms regulations for deer hunting; so it's not pertinent to varmint hunting or others.

Would like to get as much donated as possible since it's going for a good cause, but I would be willing to pay where needed if some of them turn out to be hard to get. Being a volunteer instructor doesn't pay much money wise ($0 ).

Also, someone on THR said that shipping these across state lines might be a problem; is that true since they are primerless and powderless?

Seeing as I'm not a caliber expert, nor a reloader, nor am I as well educated as the folks that do this type of stuff, I'll correct my error by snipping the whole section instead of just the calibers, that way I don't make the mistake of getting them out of order again:

Shotguns must be 10, 12, 16, or 20-gauge or .410 bore loaded with slugs or saboted bullets.

Handguns, other than muzzleloading, must have a barrel at least 4 inches long and must fire a bullet of .243-inch diameter or larger. The handgun cartridge case, without the bullet, must be at least 1.16 inches long.

Full metal-jacketed bullets are not permitted.
Some types of handgun cartridges legal for deer hunting include:
.357 Magnum
.41 Magnum
.44 Magnum
.44 Special
.45 Colt
.45 Long Colt
.45 Winchester Magnum
.35 Remington
.357 Herrett.

Some illegal handgun cartridges for deer hunting are 38 Special, 38 Smith and Wesson, 38 Colt New Police, 38/200, 38 Long Colt, 38 Super, 38 ACP, 38 Colt Auto, 45 ACP, 45 Automatic and 45 Auto Rim. All 25/20, 32/20 and 30 carbine ammunition is prohibited also.

Rifles must fire a cartridge with a bullet of .357-inch diameter or larger; have a minimum case length of 1.16 inches; and have a maximum case length of 1.625 inches. These rifle cartridges can be used only during the deer firearms season.
Some cartridges that are legal include the following:
.357 Magnum
.38-40 Winchester
.41 Magnum
.41 Special
.44 Magnum
.44 Special
.44-40 Winchester
.45 Colt
.454 Casull
.458 SOCOM
.480 Ruger
.475 Linebaugh
.50 Action Express
.500 S&W

Some illegal rifle cartridges for deer hunting are the .30-30 Winchester, .444 Marlin and .45-70 Govt.

 

[fireball168]

I'll donate:

358 BFG/WSSM
358 Gremlin/9x39 USA
458 BFG/45 Winchester Magnum
458 SOCOM
500 BFG/SOCOM

 

[Greg.B]

fireball168...thank you! I'll shoot you a PM with an address.

 

[fireball168]

I've got 50AE too, but don't have any .500" projectiles right now to make a dummy.

 

[Greg.B]

No promblem fireball168....anything you can get to me is appreciated, and if you can get the 50AE later that'd be great; if not, it's no problem at all!

If I come up with it in the meantime I'll let you know!

 

[Slow Hand]

I can do(I think):

.357 Magnum
.41 Magnum
.44 Magnum
.44 Special
.45 Colt/.45 Long Colt Same caliber
.35 Remington
.38 Special
.38 Smith and Wesson/38 Colt New Police/.38/200 Same caliber
.38 Super/38 ACP/38 Colt Auto same case
.45 ACP/45 Automatic Same caliber
.32/20
.45-70 Govt.

PM your address and I'll see what I can do about getting these loaded up for you.

Doug K

 

[Greg.B]

PM sent...thanks Slow Hand

 

[ryanmercer]

To all that are helping OP out, you rock.

 

[Greg.B]

Thank you all for your donations; these will be beneficial to the hunter ed classes, as well as our Scout Troop that's preparing to start a Venture Crew later this year! Here is an updated list of what's been donated, and what I'm still looking for. Keep in mind, I'm NOT a caliber expert and there are a couple that I believe may be the same.

If you have anything to offer that's not on the list, please let me know!

ALREADY DONATED:
223
30 M1 Carbine
30-06
30-30
308
32/20
35 Remington
357 Magnum
358 BFG/WSSM
358 Gremlin/9x39 USA
38 Smith & Wesson/38 Colt New Police/ 38/200
38 Special
38 Super/38 ACP/38 Colt Auto
40 Smith & Wesson
41 Magnum
44 Special
44Magnum
45 ACP/45 Automatic
45 Colt/45 Long Colt
45-70
458 BFG/45 Winchester Magnum
458 SOCOM
45ACP
5.7
500 BFG/SOCOM
7.62x39
7mm WST
8x57
9mm
9mm WinMag


STILL LOOKING FOR:
Any caliber not yet listed, but particularly:
.44-40 Winchester
.454 Casull
.480 Ruger
.475 Linebaugh
.50 Action Express
.500 S&W
.357 Herrett
38 Long Colt
25/20
.444 Marlin

 

[Greg.B]

Anyone else willing to help out?

 

[Greg.B]

Just wanted to say thanks again to everyone that has sent packages and helped out with this. I'm still watching for a few in the mail, and just wanted to tell you all how much I appreciate it!

I'm not going to bump this anymore...if anyone has anything else they can help out with, just let me know. Othewise, it's time to let this thread die!

 

[ryanmercer]

Just wanted to say thanks again to everyone that has sent packages and helped out with this. I'm still watching for a few in the mail, and just wanted to tell you all how much I appreciate it!

I'm not going to bump this anymore...if anyone has anything else they can help out with, just let me know. Otherwise, it's time to let this thread die!

Wish I would have had something to send, glad there were people that did though