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I have consolidated non-rimfire rifles to those I can reload for, and during some trading picked up a new Sig. The Sig P227 Carry SAS, which is a few firsts for me. It's my first "E2" Sig, it's my first "Carry" sig, and it's my first double stack .45 ever. I don't fully understand Sig's idea with the "carry" length. A slightly shorter slide but a full sized grip seems backward to me, with a full sized slide and shorter grip being easier to conceal...but ok. Let's give it a try.
P227 SAS Gen 2
So, here's mine:
The E2 has a one piece grip, which is not the traditional Sig way of doing things. I generally fear new things, but was reassured because it's apparently easy to swap on the old style two piece grips so if I didn't like them I could change them easily. Verdict: I liked them. They give a good amount of grip without feeling uncomfortable. I've not put it on a timer yet, but on the indoor range at a steady cadence it worked fine.
The sights are standard Siglite night sights, white dots with tritium inserts. They are apparently set up for a 6 o'clock hold with the bullet impacting just above the top edge of the front sight. I'll probably try the sharpie on the rear dots to make the front easier to acquire, but they are perfectly serviceable.
The first thing I did as a getting-to-know-you exercise was some vertical transitions. One body, one head, one body, one head, decock and repeat. I threw a few as I sped up but overall was happy with the results and the pace:
7 yards:
Then, also at 7 yards, I did some accuracy work. The bottom target was first, with a point of aim at the 1" square. 11 rounds clustered nicely just above the POA. I then shot the top dots horizontally with the first circle DA, then the next two SA. I shoved the gun with a few called fliers on #2 and #3 circles. The low/left on #4 was uncalled, but was certainly user error and not the gun.
What I found interesting is it fits in my P245 holsters. This gives me a "midsize" option between the P245 and the P220...and with greater capacity than either single stack. I'm going to break out the calipers and see how much thickness difference in the grip there actually is.
The long taper on the magazines looks like it'll be ideal for reloads as well, especially with the bit of mag funnel the E2 grips provide.
The trigger is what I consider classic Sig. It's predictable and smooth. I was a bit concerned prior to feeling it in person, because my only other SAS (A P229) had the grittiest trigger I've ever felt in a Sig when I first got it. Not this one, no grit at all.
So, all in all, this is unlikely to become my daily carry gun (sticking with the full sized P226 for that), it's a perfectly serviceable option and may become my "out of town" carry gun when magazine size restrictions could be an issue. I'm going to experiment a bit with it and the Milt Sparks Executive Companion holster to see how well it conceals vs the P245 and P220.
P227 SAS Gen 2
So, here's mine:
The E2 has a one piece grip, which is not the traditional Sig way of doing things. I generally fear new things, but was reassured because it's apparently easy to swap on the old style two piece grips so if I didn't like them I could change them easily. Verdict: I liked them. They give a good amount of grip without feeling uncomfortable. I've not put it on a timer yet, but on the indoor range at a steady cadence it worked fine.
The sights are standard Siglite night sights, white dots with tritium inserts. They are apparently set up for a 6 o'clock hold with the bullet impacting just above the top edge of the front sight. I'll probably try the sharpie on the rear dots to make the front easier to acquire, but they are perfectly serviceable.
The first thing I did as a getting-to-know-you exercise was some vertical transitions. One body, one head, one body, one head, decock and repeat. I threw a few as I sped up but overall was happy with the results and the pace:
7 yards:
Then, also at 7 yards, I did some accuracy work. The bottom target was first, with a point of aim at the 1" square. 11 rounds clustered nicely just above the POA. I then shot the top dots horizontally with the first circle DA, then the next two SA. I shoved the gun with a few called fliers on #2 and #3 circles. The low/left on #4 was uncalled, but was certainly user error and not the gun.
What I found interesting is it fits in my P245 holsters. This gives me a "midsize" option between the P245 and the P220...and with greater capacity than either single stack. I'm going to break out the calipers and see how much thickness difference in the grip there actually is.
The long taper on the magazines looks like it'll be ideal for reloads as well, especially with the bit of mag funnel the E2 grips provide.
The trigger is what I consider classic Sig. It's predictable and smooth. I was a bit concerned prior to feeling it in person, because my only other SAS (A P229) had the grittiest trigger I've ever felt in a Sig when I first got it. Not this one, no grit at all.
So, all in all, this is unlikely to become my daily carry gun (sticking with the full sized P226 for that), it's a perfectly serviceable option and may become my "out of town" carry gun when magazine size restrictions could be an issue. I'm going to experiment a bit with it and the Milt Sparks Executive Companion holster to see how well it conceals vs the P245 and P220.