It is much more pronounced in my Legion than my X Compact.No movement in the fcu. Seems secure. In a Wilson combat grip module.
Couple other notes, this isn’t new, just curious about it, and my p320 legion does it as well.
It is much more pronounced in my Legion than my X Compact.No movement in the fcu. Seems secure. In a Wilson combat grip module.
Couple other notes, this isn’t new, just curious about it, and my p320 legion does it as well.
This seems to be the case more with striker type handguns than hammer. So long as it’s consistent it probably won’t matter at practical distances.I have a Sig P320 that I shoot pretty well by my standards, but I notice that when I concentrate on prepping the trigger, there is movement in the slide, as first evidenced by the red dot moving up and down. I’d say it moves an inch and a half sighting at 15’.
Wondering if anyone else experiences this, how much it affects your accuracy, and if anything can be physically done to the gun to tighten it up?
A buddy explained that it is because of the trigger module being less connected to the slide vs the standard trigger that is without the modularity.
Wasn’t sure if the is the case on any other gun?
I think you’re right.Sounds like you just need to stop prepping the trigger.
I put a gray guns trigger in it, it’s pretty nice.This seems to be the case more with striker type handguns than hammer. So long as it’s consistent it probably won’t matter at practical distances.
If you’re going for the most accuracy, perhaps you could smooth some of the striker/ trigger components. Maybe even a different trigger group.
The slop may not be totally avoidable on a 320.
Not sure why.Check yo grip. (especially your support hand)
This is a gun issue not a person issue. Not sure if you actually read what the problem is but it has nothing to do with the operator.Check yo grip. (especially your support hand)
I am still working on the dot but that is what I try to do. When the dot shows up, I send it. I still need to work on that low left issue though...Mike Seeklander was saying the other day when we were having beer that I need to grip, then pull the trigger. Not grip and pull the trigger.This is a fairly common issue with the P320, based on the design of the FCU. I've also seen P365s do this to the point where owner's sold them because it was so distracting.
Having said that, trying to hold the dot perfectly steady while "prepping" a SAO trigger is probably not going to get you where you want to go. Dots are meant to be shot with target focus, and the best "dot" gunners I know have developed the mantra "see dot, shoot dot." In other words, they're looking at the TARGET, bringing the gun into their line of sight, and when the dot crosses the spot they want to shoot, they press the trigger. They're not staring at the dot the way we old timers stare at our front sight...
YES. If you're squeezing your hands WHILE pulling the trigger, it's going to be very hard to overcome low-leftitis.I am still working on the dot but that is what I try to do. When the dot shows up, I send it. I still need to work on that low left issue though...Mike Seeklander was saying the other day when we were having beer that I need to grip, then pull the trigger. Not grip and pull the trigger.
Lots of threads on SigTalk, GlockTalk, etc on this as well.
Here's a video (not mine). First part of the video shows what I believe we are discussing here.
The second part of the video shows the slide moving forward as trigger is pulled (I haven't seen that in the one of my 320's that I tested)
I tend to think similar to this, as opposed to those that say don’t worry about it, but that being said I was trying to learn the dot on a FNX 45 tac with a Trijicon, and the larger window of the Romeo on this got me through a lot, so I did learn on this.I think I'd offload any pistol that did something like this.
Glocks tend to shift around a TINY imperceptible amount when you dry fire without a magazine, but it's only a horizontal shake. My walthers don't do it at all.
If you were having to fight this as you were learning to shoot with a dot, you might as well hang it up. That would be incredibly distracting. Not that you couldn't work out a zero that'd make it practically irrelevant.
When I owned a P320 I do recall the slide moving up and down during trigger squeeze during dry fire. I don’t think it was noticeably distracting with open sights but I can see where it would be annoying with an RDS.Back and forth movement is common in striker fired guns, it's the trigger bar pulling off the striker to release.
Up and down movement is not normal. I've never seen it in an m&p or glock.
Absolutely.I think I'd offload any pistol that did something like this.
Glocks tend to shift around a TINY imperceptible amount when you dry fire without a magazine, but it's only a horizontal shake. My walthers don't do it at all.
If you were having to fight this as you were learning to shoot with a dot, you might as well hang it up. That would be incredibly distracting. Not that you couldn't work out a zero that'd make it practically irrelevant.