Possible shooting at Elementary School in Connecticut

[ditto]

Punks are already making facebook pages for this monster. Seriously what the f**k is wrong with people?

 

[snorko]

From AP:

The boy told him a teacher went out to check on the noise, came back in, locked the door and had the kids huddle up in the corner until police arrived.

That sounds like the dumbest thing to have a group of kids do in an active shooter situation.

Someone find the pic/poster that says something like "Number of dead in mass shootings stopped by police - 14, number in mass shootings armed civilians - 2

 

[SteveG66]

Saddened and shocked by the events of today and the recent past. Stuff like this scares the heck out of me with two children in school and also a gun owner.

Please keep the families and victims in your thoughts and prayers, they're going to need it.

More ammunition for the anti-gunners, unfortunately the wrong people are going to be punished for this horrible tragedy.

Please hug your kids when you see them tonight, I know I will!!!!

 

[Titanium_Frost]

From AP:

That sounds like the dumbest thing to have a group of kids do in an active shooter situation.

Someone find the pic/poster that says something like "Number of dead in mass shootings stopped by police - 14, number in mass shootings armed civilians - 2

It is what they are taught to do. Fire drill, tornado drill, earthquake drill, active shooter drill.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Holy . Really? How many does this make since the Aurora shooting? Can't wait for the "never let a good crisis go to waste" crowd to start spewing their crap.

I can't imagine being the parent of a child in that school. Prayers to all involved. And may the worthless POS shooter rot in hell.

Still can't get over it. That press conference should be starting soon. I just really hope people understand the other millions of gun owners aren't bat-**** crazy.

A friend and I are having this argument right now. He says AK's, Uzi's, etc. All need to be illegal because there is no productive purpose for them. I argue that my AK is no different than a semi-auto 30 cal rifle other than appearance. He then says all semi-auto rifle's should be banned, and people should only be allowed to have handguns that hold 5 to 7 rounds and shotguns. I point out that I can run through several magazines with a handgun, he then says that handguns should be illegal too. I ask what about a person's right to protect themselves and he argues that people should just hand over money because criminals don't want to kill people, they just want their money, and if someone tried to fight back, they just made it worse for everyone around them because now the criminal will likely shoot, where he wouldn't have before. I then argue that now the mindset is going to be that since people will just rolover, crime will increase. He absolutely disagrees with that statement. Why? Because we have police and the criminals donlt want to risk getting caught that much. Sigh, this is one I just have to give up on and let him be a victim. I hope he's never in a situation where his ideas are proven wrong.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

From AP:

That sounds like the dumbest thing to have a group of kids do in an active shooter situation.

Someone find the pic/poster that says something like "Number of dead in mass shootings stopped by police - 14, number in mass shootings armed civilians - 2

Actually that's exactly what they should do if they don't have a clear escape route. We have active shooter drills where I work, and that's the first thing they tell us to do. Get in a room with a lockable door (conference room, office, etc.), lock it, turn off the lights, etc.. The shooter is looking for targets. If he can't see one, he can't shoot it.

At any rate, this is a horrible, sad situation. It's too bad they can't remove the shooter's brain and "read" his final thoughts and those that lead up to this, kind of like a black box in an aircraft.

 

[TTravis]

A friend and I are having this argument right now. He says AK's, Uzi's, etc. All need to be illegal because there is no productive purpose for them. I argue that my AK is no different than a semi-auto 30 cal rifle other than appearance. He then says all semi-auto rifle's should be banned, and people should only be allowed to have handguns that hold 5 to 7 rounds and shotguns. I point out that I can run through several magazines with a handgun, he then says that handguns should be illegal too. I ask what about a person's right to protect themselves and he argues that people should just hand over money because criminals don't want to kill people, they just want their money, and if someone tried to fight back, they just made it worse for everyone around them because now the criminal will likely shoot, where he wouldn't have before. I then argue that now the mindset is going to be that since people will just rolover, crime will increase. He absolutely disagrees with that statement. Why? Because we have police and the criminals donlt want to risk getting caught that much. Sigh, this is one I just have to give up on and let him be a victim. I hope he's never in a situation where his ideas are proven wrong.

Just ask him if he would be willing to put a sign in his front yard that states his beliefs and that he does not have a gun.

 

[FireBirdDS]

In a post gun-ban world where citizens would be advised to "give the criminal what he wants" if he's threatening to shoot you, one has to wonder... "Shoot you" with what? Would that be an admission that thugs would still manage to have guns somehow?

 

[evsnova74]

They need to find the body of the wife or ex-wife that the guy killed
before going to the school to kill his kid(s) and himself.

Just saw a report of another adult victim at a "secondary" crime scene...

 

[Rikkrack]

was supposedly shooter's father. Mother and father divorced. Mother was in the school, and is reported to be dead.

 

[WestSider]

Wow how tragic, unbelievable...

 

[PapaScout]

This is horrific. I feel sorry for the school employee who buzzed him in. Can't imagine what they must be feeling right now.

 

[gunowner930]

Unthinkable. They're saying a whole kindergarten classroom is unaccounted for. I just can't believe people are already seizing this tragedy like it's some kind of opportunity to push their BS anti-gun agendas forward.

Why are you surprised? They do it EVERY time something like this happens.

 

[Captain Morgan]

In a post gun-ban world where citizens would be advised to "give the criminal what he wants" if he's threatening to shoot you, one has to wonder... "Shoot you" with what? Would that be an admission that thugs would still manage to have guns somehow?

Oh, I had pointed out that if guns are illegal here in the US, they'll just be smuggled in from Mexico and other areas, right along with all the drugs that are already illegal. His argument was that our police task forces would "stop as much as possible" so it would be more difficult for criminals to have guns and thn there wouldn't be as many problems. I pointed out that guns are illegal in Illinois, yet Chicago has a big murder problem. {Is argument was that's just gangbangers killing themselves, not mass murder, so it's ok.

 

[snorko]

Actually that's exactly what they should do if they don't have a clear escape route. We have active shooter drills where I work, and that's the first thing they tell us to do. Get in a room with a lockable door (conference room, office, etc.), lock it, turn off the lights, etc.. The shooter is looking for targets. If he can't see one, he can't shoot it.

Good point, if all those steps are taken I can see the benefit, thanks for the edification.

 

[GunSlinger]

This is my worst nightmare come true. May God be with all the loved ones involved.

 

[mrjarrell]

So, now the count is up to 20 kids dead. It just keeps getting worse.

CBS News: 27 Dead, Including 20 Children, In Elementary School Shooting « CBS Connecticut

 

[LFD102]

Very tragic my thoughts go out to the families and first responders
It's also sad that the media wants to blame the school for poor security measures with out knowing the facts and again blaming the gun and not the shooter. How ever Fox News did have one person said its not the guns, its an issue of the mental stability of the person doing the shooting and that no matter how much gun control we impose this may still happen

 

[Relatively Ninja]

I heard a news anchor on CNN say that one of the weapons recovered was a ".223 model bushwhacker, which fires the same kind of ammunition that our troops use in Afghanistan. Also recovered were two pistols, a glock and a sig sauser."

Someone on Facebook said the media had used a picture of another man by the same name when identifying the shooter and the innocent guy is now receiving death threats.

Hooray for quality reporting.

 

[Kisada]

Pardon the french, but it would be surprising if these ****bag "news" personnel could properly tie their own gd shoelaces, much less show any semblance of accuracy in their chosen profession, so-called reporting. You pretty much have to wait 3-5 days to get any proper factual information... and even still, said info is questionable at best.

Just saw a video with blurb "Fox confirms"... what a joke.