Popular handgun fires without anyone pulling the trigger, victims say

[Kurr]

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More than 100 people allege that their P320 pistols discharged when they did not pull the trigger, an eight-month investigation by The Washington Post and The Trace has found. At least 80 people were wounded in the shootings, which date to 2016.

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[Sigblitz]

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[DoggyDaddy]

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More than 100 people allege that their P320 pistols discharged when they did not pull the trigger, an eight-month investigation by The Washington Post and The Trace has found. At least 80 people were wounded in the shootings, which date to 2016.

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Were they where @Kirk Freeman goes to train? They seem to have a record of firearms spontaneously discharging.

 

[fullmetaljesus]

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I'm proud of you for this joke. Well done you magnificent bastard.

 

[Goodcat]

This is old news, but new light on the number I suppose. The 320 is commonly not duty approved for their reason, shocked departments were still allowing them. The Agency 2 part trigger makes it impossible. Sig’s “upgraded trigger program”, apparently helps but doesn’t prevent. Note sig never said there was an issue, just that they offer a free trigger upgrade for the style that did it the most. I’ll still shoot a p320 at the range, but that’s it. The issue does not affect any other models at all.

 

[BigRed3588]

“A variant of the weapon is the standard-issue sidearm for every branch of the U.S. military. Since the gun’s introduction to the commercial market in 2014, manufacturer SIG Sauer has sold the P320 to hundreds of thousands of civilians, and it has been used by officers at more than a thousand law enforcement agencies across the nation, court records show.”

This many in circulation and ~100 plaintiffs, most of which admit they were handling the gun in some way at the time it went off. Oh, and neither lawyers for the defense nor law enforcement agencies have been able to replicate it in a controlled setting.

Finally, the best claim, “But two years later, as he inspected the weapon for a chambered round, it fired a bullet through his hand, Winningham said.” So either the gun somehow discharges while out of battery or he just randomly points the gun at his hand when he looks at the loaded chamber indicator.

Smells like BS to me…

 

[Creedmoor]

“A variant of the weapon is the standard-issue sidearm for every branch of the U.S. military. Since the gun’s introduction to the commercial market in 2014, manufacturer SIG Sauer has sold the P320 to hundreds of thousands of civilians, and it has been used by officers at more than a thousand law enforcement agencies across the nation, court records show.”

This many in circulation and ~100 plaintiffs, most of which admit they were handling the gun in some way at the time it went off. Oh, and neither lawyers for the defense nor law enforcement agencies have been able to replicate it in a controlled setting.

Finally, the best claim, “But two years later, as he inspected the weapon for a chambered round, it fired a bullet through his hand, Winningham said.” So either the gun somehow discharges while out of battery or he just randomly points the gun at his hand when he looks at the loaded chamber indicator.

Smells like BS to me…

I have now carried a 320 for 2 years? now.
Ive dropped it a few times along the way, its never discharged without my booger hook on the bang switch.
I have a few of them.

 

[BigRed3588]

I have now carried a 320 for 2 years? now.
Ive dropped it a few times along the way, its never discharged without my booger hook on the bang switch.
I have a few of them.

I have two and I have had an issue with one of them. Want to know the funny thing? Sig failed to install the pivot pin in the FCU that lifts the striker safety disconnect. It would still raise, just not as high as it needs to fire. I have first hand knowledge that the striker safety works.

 

[Creedmoor]

Two our of three are daily carrys, not a problem as of yet.

 

[bwframe]

 

[Expat]

Well if the WaPo was involved in the story…

 

[Creedmoor]

Well if the WaPo was involved in the story…

No powder burns or residue?
Not sure im buying the pistol was in the holster when its brain told it to fire.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Were they where @Kirk Freeman goes to train? They seem to have a record of firearms spontaneously discharging.

What?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

What?

Haven't you heard the story of the 870?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Haven't you heard the story of the 870?

The slamfire at Shootrite during one handed drills?

That was a slamfire. It did not go off on it's own.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

The slamfire at Shootrite during one handed drills?

That was a slamfire. It did not go off on it's own.

I thought it fired without touching the trigger? Any time I've slamfired a pump shotgun, I've held the trigger down.

 

[ditcherman]

I have now carried a 320 for 2 years? now.
Ive dropped it a few times along the way, its never discharged without my booger hook on the bang switch.
I have a few of them.

C’mon man up and start carrying one without a safety!

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I thought it fired without touching the trigger? Any time I've slamfired a pump shotgun, I've held the trigger down.

Weapon was on safe and trigger was not touched. I was using my left hand only, as I pulled the foreend forward the weapon discharged.

Slamfires transpire when the weapon is loaded. It is not necessary that a trigger be held down.

See if this helps:

Firearm Malfunctions: Slamfire

In today's post, we will look into another type of firearm malfunction called the slamfire . When a new cartridge is being loaded into the...

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[pute62]

Luckily I don't have one. Problem solved from the get go

 

[printcraft]

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