Obama spars with Tea Party activist

[IndySSD]

Funny, looks to me like the Tea Party and the Republicans are big government, they're just in favor of a different form of big government. How much were the Tea Partiers willing to reduce "Defense"? How about their favorite social "Wars"? None at all. They like their version of big government. They just don't like the Democrat version of big government. Toss in a guy who wants to reduce it all and nobody, including Faux News, will even mention him.

The best thing about Sarah Palin was a movie produced by Larry Flint. The rest has been a joke on folks too slow to get it.

I don't like the Democrats and I don't like the Republicans, I like the Constitution, so I don't count at all.

Ron Paul and I would disagree with your last 6 words and agree wholeheartedly with the four preceding those.

Sadly people are so entrenched in their left vs. right political diversionary paradigm that they aren't seeing that both Repubs and Dems are trying to relieve you of your freedoms, just in different ways.

 

[Denny347]

Ron Paul and I would disagree with your last 6 words and agree wholeheartedly with the four preceding those.

Sadly people are so entrenched in their left vs. right political diversionary paradigm that they aren't seeing that both Repubs and Dems are trying to relieve you of your freedoms, just in different ways.

LOVE your sig picture....great stuff.

 

[IndySSD]

LOVE your sig picture....great stuff.

TY sir, I honestly believe that all those who value liberty and want to truly correct the trends that have led to our nations current financial situation should seriously take a long hard look at Ron Paul and not "dismiss" him like the media has.

 

[Denny347]

TY sir, I honestly believe that all those who value liberty and want to truly correct the trends that have led to our nations current financial situation should seriously take a long hard look at Ron Paul and not "dismiss" him like the media has.

Preaching to the choir brother

 

[Bummer]

Ron Paul and I would disagree with your last 6 words and agree wholeheartedly with the four preceding those.

Think Ron Paul will get the Republican nod this time around? I don't.

I voted for Ron Paul in '88. He's the only "Republican" I'd consider voting for. Period. I've been voting Libertarian since the Republicans chose a professional liar as their candidate in 1980, but it's really pointless. My vote gets canceled out by the first mindless Ditto Head through the door.

Sadly people are so entrenched in their left vs. right political diversionary paradigm that they aren't seeing that both Repubs and Dems are trying to relieve you of your freedoms, just in different ways.

Absolutely agree.

 

[jedi]

2 seasons does not make you a seasoned politician.

your prez has been in politics since 1997 when he was elected to the IL senate. That's 14 years. Not sure what you are referring to "2 seasons". After 14 years, heck after 1 election campaign you are seasons enough to know you do NOT engage the crowd as you lose control!

 

[ViperJock]

The way I see it any politician that was in office **BEFORE** the TP grass-roots started CANNOT be a true TP. They are nothing more than liars that are trying to get votes. Only those new freshman with zero politician experience that are coming in under TP banners are indeed true TPs.

Indeed. It is a polpular bandwagon right now. The party republicans know they can't win unless they paint themselves as tea party. Its all about self preserval.

 

[Bitter Clinger]

LOL - some of these comments about Governor Palin are ridiculous.

BTW - "Governor" is a title of respect, just like we still call retired military officers "Colonel". You retain your highest title of rank or elected office for your entire life.

So Sarah will remain "Governor" Palin until she becomes "President" Palin.

Keep drinking the liberal cool-aid.

 

[Denny347]

LOL - some of these comments about Governor Palin are ridiculous.

BTW - "Governor" is a title of respect, just like we still call retired military officers "Colonel". You retain your highest title of rank or elected office for your entire life.

So Sarah will remain "Governor" Palin until she becomes "President" Palin.

Keep drinking the liberal cool-aid.

Why does it have to be "Liberal"? Is this the same line of thinking as "If you are not with us, you are against us"? Either you are a Conservative or a Liberal? I am a Libertarian and do not align with the mega-party we call Democrats/Republicans...different sides of the same coin...I see you've been drinking the Washington Cool-Aid

 

[Bummer]

LOL - some of these comments about Governor Palin are ridiculous.

I agree. Some of your comments about Caribou Barbie are a total hoot.

BTW - "Governor" is a title of respect, just like we still call retired military officers "Colonel". You retain your highest title of rank or elected office for your entire life.

Uh, no. At least not among the sane.

So Sarah will remain "Governor" Palin until she becomes "President" Palin.

You know, I'd love it if Palin got to be President. Last time around I printed up a bumper sticker in her honor. It's a section of a US flag with a slogan recognizing why McCain picked her: "Sarah, show us your t*ts".

Keep drinking the liberal cool-aid.

Looks like you need to step away from the Republican Kool-Aid. After all, both brands come from the same place.

 

[Pocketman]

LOL - some of these comments about Governor Palin are ridiculous.

BTW - "Governor" is a title of respect, just like we still call retired military officers "Colonel". You retain your highest title of rank or elected office for your entire life.

So Sarah will remain "Governor" Palin until she becomes "President" Palin.

Keep drinking the liberal cool-aid.

Ms. Palin would have to actually run for the office if there's any chance of her getting a title upgrade.

 

[Wild Deuce]

yes & no.

The original TP group was started by grass-roots method (ie. regular people not those already in office). Sadly now there are many flavors of TP and you are correct the Rs have been quick to paint themselves as TP.

The R's love to paint themselves as TP right up to the point of actually supporting Tea Party (the original TP) goals. Then they want the TP to shut up and compromise ... "We'll take your money! We'll take your votes! Huh? You want us to do what?!?!"


Reminds me of seeing this handed out at a Tea Party rally a couple years back. Thoughts? Presented here with full (expressed) permission from Mike Vanderboegh of Sipsey Street Irregulars blog:

This is NOT a Tea Party.​

This is a Tea & Cakes Party.​

THIS is a Tea Party: ​

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The original Boston Tea Party was a calculated act of law-breaking designed to send the British Empire a message it could not fail to comprehend. Making long-winded speeches, thumping impassioned chests and denouncing a government made up of people who have already written you off as unimportant, impotent and no threat to their plans is a waste of time, energy and oxygen. As comfortable and deeply ingrained as they are in all Americans, the conventional political tactics of speech-making, letter-writing and electioneering have brought us to this precipice of defeat. The guttering flame of the Founders' Republic is within one stiff breeze of going out forever. Both political parties have conspired through malice or incompetence to bring us to this state, yet still people look in vain to the system of party politics for salvation. The Founders were not so stupid as to place all their hopes on a corrupt system. When the accepted channels of politics and remonstrance failed, they burned the King's tax stamps, dumped his tea, broke the windows of his tax collectors with rocks and bricks, smuggled forbidden goods, defied "his royal majesty" in hundreds of other ways and dared him to do anything about it. Liberty is not free, nor is it without risk.

All these tactics are still available to us today. Any inventive mind could think of many more effective in this modern era. It is not necessary to collect a crowd to do them, either. Defiance in action can be expressed individually in many ingenious ways. But let us not kid ourselves that standing around and listening to speeches that aren't worth the hot air generated thereby is an effective strategy for dealing with the hard-eyed, hard-nosed collectivist domestic enemies of the Founders' Republic in power today. You want to send a message that you intend to defend your liberty and not talk about defending it? Don't mail a tea bag. Think like the Founders, and ACT.

Mike Vanderboegh, PO Box 926, Pinson, AL 35126 / GeorgeMason1776@aol.com / sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com
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[Bitter Clinger]

Thats right - just keep allowing the media to pick your president for you. After all, they picked Obongo.


One more time about TITLES of respect, and I'll type S-L-O-W-L-Y for those who aren't too bright. My grandfather retired from the Army as a Colonel. For the rest of his civilian life, he was addressed as "Colonel" out of respect. Likewise, elected public officials retain their titles after they leave office. Mayor Giuliani, Senator Dole, President Reagan, Governor Palin. Get it?

 

[Vanguard.45]

So there it is. Defense must be upheld. With your tax dollars.

A big difference between rep. and Obama? I think not. This is just status quo. The tea party STARTED WITH BUSH IN OFFICE. Protesting HIM and the policies he was putting into place. Furthermore without these worthless foreign wars we wouldn't be in this hole.

Ever hear of the department of homeland security? Wasn't started by Obama.

How about your precious Bill of Rights? Ever read the patriot act? I certainly hope not if you are choosing the lesser of two evils.

The trickle down theory didn't work in the 30's and it isn't working now. Unemployment is pretty steady near 10% and we have had these tax cuts for how long? A decade? Still not getting better? Looks like that rich SOB took his money to China and sold the goods to us.

The Tea Party movement did NOT become a major movement while Bush was still in office. That's nonsense. It grew to become a major movement during and primarily after the stimulus and the Obamacare situations. If you want to say others used the name before that, then we could take it all the way back to the "Boston Tea Party", but that's hardly the same movement. The first major uprising was ushered in in February of 2009 when Rick Santelli suggested holding a tea party for traders to gather and dump the derivatives in the Chicago River on July 1. The theme stuck.

If you think there is no difference between a Saul Alinsky Socialist and the Republicans, then you haven't been paying attention. Read "Rules for Radicals" and then think a bit more.

As to the wars, we have been fighting in hopeless lands too long. Funny how Obama isn't in any hurry to come home either and added another war on for good measure!

Department of Homeland Security is a waste of tax dollars. Agreed. The government in all forms is inefficient and slow.

Patriot Act? Many Republicans would not sign on to it originally without a yearly evaluation of its continuation. Obama came in and removed that stipulation. Now it exists in perpetuity. Funny how the Dems were the ones decrying it, and they said nothing when their guy expanded it and made it permanent!

Your "trickle down isn't working" argument is silly. Trickle down works if it is allowed to exist in a free market. What we have now are businesses leaving due to over regulation and the highest corporate tax rates in the world! And the problem isn't that we have too many rich people. It's that we have too many poor and lazy people. We also have too much uncertainty in the administration where businesses, unsure of what taxes and regulations are coming down the road, would be foolish to invest in new employees or new building projects. Why don't you listen to people like Steve Wynn or Bernie Marcus who have created thousands of jobs? Does it sound like they think Obama is just like Bush and the Republicans?

So you think by raising taxes on the rich that this will create jobs? How exactly does that work? Enlighten us. I'll tell you what will happen. You will raise taxes on the rich and their businesses and they will do one of three things: 1. Take a pay cut themselves (this is what morons who support raising taxes believe will happen), 2. Lay off workers ("Hey, that unemployment rate just went up again. WTF???"), or 3. Raise the prices of their services/ products (you just screwed yourself, genius).

How about this? Take a lesson from the 1990s. Clinton increased government spending by 35%, but had revenues increased by 85% due to the information technology bubble. Unfortunately, once that bubble burst, guess what remained? The increased spending by the government keeping the slaves on the plantation (their dependent supporters). Only now, there wasn't the same tax revenue coming in due to the business cycle doing what it always does (ups AND downs). What gave Clinton his surplus? It wasn't the increased spending by the government (remember, that remained). It was the fact that businesses were allowed to be successful due to the lack of regulation by the government which had not yet gotten around to regulating and taxing the new technologies at every level.


Still think the parties are the same? Ask yourself this- If a Republican had been elected President in 2008, would we have anything approaching Obamacare? Answer: No.

Think Obama isn't running a Socialist administration? Just look at Ron Bloom, who was originally the White House adviser on manufacturing and the architect of the auto bailout, and more recently was a senior advisor to the president. Here's a quote from the guy who advises Obama on manufacturing:

"“Generally speaking, we get the joke,” Bloom started. “We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money, ’cause they’re convinced that there is a free lunch.”
“We know this is largely about power, that it’s an adults only no limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun. And we get it that if you want a friend you should get a dog.”"

More recently, when asked about partnerships between business and academia to revive American factories, Bloom described the policy as a way for the government to support private innovation. He said it was an approach that would “let the great thousand flowers bloom in America.”

The Politico stated that such a statement "evoked China." Where does that phrase come from? Chairman Mao. The following comes from theblaze.com:

"If that sounds familiar, it should.

While the correct wording is in fact a “hundred flowers,” there is no question as to where the phrase derives from. Back in the summer of 1957 in the People’s Republic of China, a movement emerged called the “Hundred Flowers Campaign,” during which the Communist Party allegedly encouraged those with diverse view points to step forward and share their ideas with a view to “letting a hundred flowers blossom and a hundred schools of thought contend is the policy for promoting progress in the arts and the sciences and a flourishing socialist culture in our land.”
Of course it was all a ploy, implemented to out as many free-thinkers and dissidents as the regime possibly could. Not surprisingly, Mao punished many who participated in the Hundred Flowers Movement until finally reimposing his oppressive policy on public expression." (Ron Bloom Thousand Hundred Flowers Mao Tse-Tung Communist China Unions | Video | TheBlaze.com)

Yeah, they're all the same. Nonsense. You better wake up.

 

[Bummer]

Thats right - just keep allowing the media to pick your president for you. After all, they picked Obongo.

The media has a huge impact on who runs on both sides. The media loves Caribou Barbie. They'll drop coverage of Ron Paul to put a camera in that twit's face, any day. And you fall for it.

One more time about TITLES of respect, and I'll type S-L-O-W-L-Y for those who aren't too bright. My grandfather retired from the Army as a Colonel. For the rest of his civilian life, he was addressed as "Colonel" out of respect. Likewise, elected public officials retain their titles after they leave office. Mayor Giuliani, Senator Dole, President Reagan, Governor Palin. Get it?

Put down the mirror and pay attention. Mr. Giuliani, Mr. Dole, Ronnie Raygun, and Caribou Barbie. All the respect they deserve. Your grandfather? Mr. Bitter Clinger The Elder. I'm not brown nosing so they'll do an interview. I'm not looking to wind up in a will. Everybody gets a basic level of respect until they either earn more or lose what they've started out with. I note that you didn't bother to use the title President Obongo leading up to your amusing lecture on titles and respect, and Obama's the President now.

Like it or not, Caribou Barbie was chosen by John "Cash And Vacations For Influence" McCain, the Banker's Buddy, because they were afraid Hillary might run. That's it. The sole reason.

Step away from the Kool-Aid. I think you've had enough.

 

[Bitter Clinger]

The media has a huge impact on who runs on both sides. The media loves Caribou Barbie. They'll drop coverage of Ron Paul to put a camera in that twit's face, any day. And you fall for it.



Put down the mirror and pay attention. Mr. Giuliani, Mr. Dole, Ronnie Raygun, and Caribou Barbie. All the respect they deserve. Your grandfather? Mr. Bitter Clinger The Elder. I'm not brown nosing so they'll do an interview. I'm not looking to wind up in a will. Everybody gets a basic level of respect until they either earn more or lose what they've started out with. I note that you didn't bother to use the title President Obongo leading up to your amusing lecture on titles and respect, and Obama's the President now.

Like it or not, Caribou Barbie was chosen by John "Cash And Vacations For Influence" McCain, the Banker's Buddy, because they were afraid Hillary might run. That's it. The sole reason.

Step away from the Kool-Aid. I think you've had enough.

Obviously you have no respect for the military. But they are risking their lives as I type this to defend your right to voice your opinion, misguided as it is. As for Congressman Paul, I agree with him about the Federal Reserve, but his isolationist ideas of national defense have no place in the 20th century.