O.C. at Church Today

[singlesix]

Well after Church when I was counting the offering. Here is the background. Our Church is in a "not so good" area of town. Matter of fact last Winter our Pastor was robbed at gun point on the Church Parking Lot. We do have a Security Guard (guy must be in his 60s at least). One day several us were joking about getting robbed when we deposit the Sunday Offering, how it all wrapped up in a "to go" bag for the robber. One person made the comment "yeah if I was getting paid 12.50 an hour I'd take a bullet for you".

This got me to thinking, how secure is our security. So today after Church I strapped on my Colt ACP Officer's Model. I un-tucked my shirt to cover up the gun (I think that raised more eye brows than if I had walked in with my shirt tucked and the gun showing). After counting the money, just as we are about to leave the Church, I tucked my shirt back in exposing my gun. The 2 ladies I was counting with didn't seem to let on anything was wrong. The Security Guard made a comment "your strapped today". Come to find out the Security Guard had some type of Eye Infection; so according to him he could barely make out my face at 5 feet. Well this guy is better than the last one we had; he shot himself in the leg. Told the Pastor the gun went off by itself. On that one I had to bite my tongue or lose my religion. Later I explained why I believed the Security Guard had actually caused the discharge of the weapon.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

Good on ya!

The same weekend I began attending the church I'm now a member of, the office was robbed of the weekend's offering. They made off with SEVERAL thousands of dollars worth. Thankfully, no one was there when it happened. Also thankfully, most of it was in the form of checks, harder to do anything with stolen checks vs. cash.

Keep yourself safe!

-J-

 

[jontheturboguy]

I carry every time I go to church.

A fellow member and I, he being a state trooper, have both spoken about where we strategically sit in the back in case some one did come in with evil thoughts on their mind.

My pastor knows I CC, and openly welcomes it.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

*sigh* I can't carry at my church because they run a licensed daycare and preschool. Doesn't matter to the gooberment that those schools aren't being operated on Sundays.

C'est la vie.

-J-

I carry every time I go to church.

A fellow member and I, he being a state trooper, have both spoken about where we strategically sit in the back in case some one did come in with evil thoughts on their mind.

My pastor knows I CC, and openly welcomes it.

 

[Bill of Rights]

*sigh* I can't carry at my church because they run a licensed daycare and preschool. Doesn't matter to the gooberment that those schools aren't being operated on Sundays.

C'est la vie.

-J-

IC 35-47-9-1
Exemptions from chapter
Sec. 1. This chapter does not apply to the following:
(1) A:
(A) federal;
(B) state; or
(C) local;
law enforcement officer.
(2) A person who has been employed or authorized by:
(A) a school; or
(B) another person who owns or operates property being used by a school for a school function;
to act as a security guard, perform or participate in a school function, or participate in any other activity authorized by a school.
(3) A person who:
(A) may legally possess a firearm; and
(B) possesses the firearm in a motor vehicle that is being operated by the person to transport another person to or from a school or a school function.

Seems to me that your pastor, if he's CCW friendly, could authorize you to act as a "security guard" (think Jeanne Assam). Heck, they could even "employ" you to do so, for $1/year salary and no benefits.

Worth a try.

Blessings,
B

 

[Dr. Dave]

One other idea...is it a daycare or a child care ministry? Indiana makes a difference between the two. I don't know for sure but the rules may be different on carry.

 

[Jack Burton]

*sigh* I can't carry at my church because they run a licensed daycare and preschool. Doesn't matter to the gooberment that those schools aren't being operated on Sundays.

I think I'd double check that before it would stop me from carrying. Heck... triple check it.

 

[Yamaha]

heres a good question, our church owns a private catholic school, which is separate from church building itself. So, the biggest moral question is, where the heck does the no guns on school act take effect? Personally, I am looking into carrying my 1903/8 colt for services, as the g17 is a bit ungainly in the fobus.....lol

 

[rhino]

It's interesting in the day an age of "separation of church and state" where we can't have the 10 Commandments on a plaque at the courthouse, but the state can dictate to parochial schools that no guns are allowed.

 

[jrogers]

The State doesn't dictate to parochial schools that no guns are allowed, but I am very interested in keeping religion out of government so I guess you're half right.

On topic: I find that I can avoid the whole issue of carrying at church by not going to church in the first place.

 

[Glock Lover]

The State doesn't dictate to parochial schools that no guns are allowed, but I am very interested in keeping religion out of government so I guess you're half right.

On topic: I find that I can avoid the whole issue of carrying at church by not going to church in the first place.

There you have it.
I always carry at church. There have been several major church shootings this year, you never know. Especially with some of anti-religion wackos running around out there. If your a wacko you have to be a church member come on everyone knows that.

 

[rhino]

The State doesn't dictate to parochial schools that no guns are allowed, but I am very interested in keeping religion out of government so I guess you're half right.

Actually it does. Parochial schools are included in the law.

 

[cce1302]

It's interesting in the day an age of "separation of church and state" where we can't have the 10 Commandments on a plaque at the courthouse, but the state can dictate to parochial schools that no guns are allowed.

That's precisely how I see it. Except I see that separation of church and state prevents the state from dictating that guns are not allowed at church-owned schools.

 

[rhino]

Well, it should, and yet, we see what really happens. The double standard is always applied so that the same side always wins.

 

[Crystalship1]

If your a wacko you have to be a church member come on everyone knows that.

Eeeeeheheheheheeh!!!!!

Reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw a while back: "Lord... please protect me from your followers"

 

[bradp]

I carry every Sunday at Church. Their motto (Oasis Church) is "come as you are". So I do.

 

[ryanmercer]

I carry every Sunday at Church. Their motto (Oasis Church) is "come as you are". So I do.

Nice

 

[Caleb]

I carry every time I go to church.

A fellow member and I, he being a state trooper, have both spoken about where we strategically sit in the back in case some one did come in with evil thoughts on their mind.

My pastor knows I CC, and openly welcomes it.

what church you go to dude?