NICS check further review

[VaqueroEM]

Every time I buy a gun they get a further review on the NICS check. Most of the time it just adds 3 - 5 minutes onto the check and thats it. I did get delayed once. I have no criminal histroy at all... other than some speeding tickets a few years ago. Someone told me if I get a UPIN from the FBI or ATF that would stop this annoying wait.

My question is what is a UPIN and how do you get one? Does anyone else have one? Anyone get a further review when they buy?

 

[Harry2110]

Info on the UPIN can be found in the FAQ
To file out the VAF form here http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/appeals/nics-appeals-process/to-complete-process2
as the one in the faq is broke

 

[VaqueroEM]

There is info in the FAQ and here Unique physician identification number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
QUOTE]

Unique Physician Identification Number?

 

[Harry2110]

There is info in the FAQ and here Unique physician identification number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
QUOTE]

Unique Physician Identification Number?

I just saw that and was editing my post.

There were a couple post like this recently
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...cussion/165494-question_about_3_day_wait.html

I dont have a upin myself but a couple others do as I have never had a problem yet.

 

[JetGirl]

My question is what is a UPIN and how do you get one? Does anyone else have one? Anyone get a further review when they buy?

Do you have a very common name? That could contribute to the further review, even if you put your SS# on there...
Anyhow, contact your local field office there in Indy by calling (317) 287-3500 and asking for the agent in charge. They'll give you the info you need and tell you about how much it cost. I don't recall exactly, but it seems like the last person I asked, it was a couple hundred bucks and a few months of waiting.
YMMV

 

[VaqueroEM]

Do you have a very common name? That could contribute to the further review, even if you put your SS# on there...
Anyhow, contact your local field office there in Indy by calling (317) 287-3500 and asking for the agent in charge. They'll give you the info you need and tell you about how much it cost. I don't recall exactly, but it seems like the last person I asked, it was a couple hundred bucks and a few months of waiting.
YMMV

My name is a common name. I had a security clearance at one time. Someone told me both of those things can cause this.

I just looked at the FBI site and it doesn't look like it costs anything other than what the police charge to do the finger printing. Ill call tomorrow and see what I need to do.

 

[JetGirl]

I had a security clearance at one time.

Odd. That usually bumps you through the "further review" faster...

 

[VaqueroEM]

Odd. That usually bumps you through the "further review" faster...

I wish Indiana was like Georgia. Once you show your LTCH in Georgia you buy the gun. No NICS checks. If you have a handgun permit you can buy rifle or pistol without the red tape.

 

[JetGirl]

I wish Indiana was like Georgia. Once you show your LTCH in Georgia you buy the gun. No NICS checks. If you have a handgun permit you can buy rifle or pistol without the red tape.

It used to be like that in this state, too.

 

[The Keymaster]

Use this link to the INGO FAQ - https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...16185-ingunowners_faqs_sticky.html#post187170

Scroll down the the area titled About Guns. Look at the section about VAF which is the Voluntary Appeal File. This will give you information on how to go about getting a UPIN which is a Unique Personal Identification Number. There is no charge. It does take a few months to get.

 

[VaqueroEM]

I just printed the forms and filled them out. I will get finger printed this week and FedEx the forms to them and update this thread with the time frame if anyone is interested in it.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Info on the UPIN can be found in the FAQ
To file out the VAF form here FBI — To Complete Process2
as the one in the faq is broke

The link in the FAQ is fixed now. For reference, if you find a broken link in the FAQ, PM a mod and let us know so we can fix it. Thanks for posting the link, too!

Blessings,
Bill

 

[samot]

i have been having the further review deal as well ..
the last 3 purchases went further review, then DELAY!, & in 3 days the ffl calls me to come pick up my guns.
its a gigantic pain in the ass .....
i have yet to get a pin number ... but am seriously considering if im delayed again

 

[VaqueroEM]

i have been having the further review deal as well ..
the last 3 purchases went further review, then DELAY!, & in 3 days the ffl calls me to come pick up my guns.
its a gigantic pain in the ass .....
i have yet to get a pin number ... but am seriously considering if im delayed again

I was only delayed once, but it is a pain in the ass. I have the forms printed and will go get finger printed on Friday. Ill FedEx the forms to them so they get them next Tuesday... then let the countdown begin.

 

[shooter521]

I was only delayed once, but it is a pain in the ass. I have the forms printed and will go get finger printed on Friday. Ill FedEx the forms to them so they get them next Tuesday... then let the countdown begin.

It's my understanding that the VAF/UPIN process is for those who are always delayed but then always approved (or no-called), or who have been denied in error and successfully appealed it, and wish to avoid further instances of erroneous delays/denials. That is to say, you can just get assigned a UPIN because you are sent for further review (then approved), or because you are delayed once in awhile and you find it an inconvenience.

 

[combat45acp]

We just received a letter from the FBI talking about homeland security crap and to watch for tangos as the anniversary of 911 approaches. Got 3 delays in the last 2 days for guys I have sold many guns to with no problem before. Also have had a ton of delays for people I don't know. Sounds like the FBI is delaying a ton of people to check up on them better or something stupid...just fyi

 

[VaqueroEM]

We just received a letter from the FBI talking about homeland security crap and to watch for tangos as the anniversary of 911 approaches. Got 3 delays in the last 2 days for guys I have sold many guns to with no problem before. Also have had a ton of delays for people I don't know. Sounds like the FBI is delaying a ton of people to check up on them better or something stupid...just fyi

That makes me feel better! Everytime I hear further review, it is always quick... maybe 5 minutes. But I feel like I have crosshairs on me!!

 

[shooter521]

We just received a letter from the FBI talking about homeland security crap and to watch for tangos as the anniversary of 911 approaches.

We got the same letter the other day.

 

[MrSmitty]

I have, and use, a UPIN, because some scumbag, lowlife lazy ass thief decided to steal, among other things, my ID. So after being delayed on a gun purchase I applied for, and got, a UPIN, Oh yes, also because from now on I'm an alias to this thief!!!!

 

[Bobby]

It used to be like that in this state, too.

Looking at the the hassle people go through to buy a gun, do you know if there is any interest in repealing the law requiring the background check?