That sounds racist and elitist. LOL. I have to say, part of me feels the same way, but when I compared the new Canik Steel frame to the new S&W Competitor, IMHO it was no contest. For the same price the Canik was far superior. I don't know how they do it really.The P365 XL/X and Macro series called, they want you to stop buying Turkish Walther clones and buy nice pistols. there I said it, if it's Turkish it belongs in the trash.