New BATF ruling on stabilizing braces today

[tcecil88]

Try the "media" button, if you don't see it click the 3 dots by insert image.

This is the link, but it doesn't seem to play right. Maybe one of you guys can fix it, if not, I will delete it.


It works if you click the "play on YouTube button in the lower LH corner.

 

[KellyinAvon]

This is the link, but it doesn't seem to play right. Maybe one of you guys can fix it, if not, I will delete it.


It works if you click the "play on YouTube button in the lower LH corner.

It's up, it's GOOD!

 

[Sigblitz]

Why does he film in the shower?

 

[nonobaddog]

Why does he film in the shower?

Really good acoustics?

 

[foszoe]

This stuff makes my head hurt. Couldn't you just swap the pistol upper with a PSA 16" upper and be done with it?

 

[Expat]

Certainly you are misreading their intentions

If true, I would really be disappointed. I wonder if they have calculated into their decision making my disappointment.

 

[KLB]

If true, I would really be disappointed. I wonder if they have calculated into their decision making my disappointment.

Surely they would. We only need to bring this thread to their attention and I am sure they would see the folly of their ways!

 

[edwea]

This stuff makes my head hurt. Couldn't you just swap the pistol upper with a PSA 16" upper and be done with it?

That works for ar's, if one is in the mood to comply. There's a bunch of other types of pistols that aren't as modular as ar's. If this goes through, the impact will be deep and wide across the gun world.

 

[Tryin']

Sure seems like a lot of "celebrities" doing the worst hand-wringing are the same ones who Just. Kept. Pushing the shouldering issue.

MAC has a.... propensity... to take long jumps off short piers.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Why does he film in the shower?

For the family-friendly sites Like INGO. He wanted to keep it clean.

 

[tude]

I am usually slow, is it going to be a "law" or a "rule"?

 

[KellyinAvon]

I am usually slow, is it going to be a "law" or a "rule"?

It's a rule that has force of law... hasn't been published to the federal register yet AFAIK.

BATFE can't legally do this since they are WAY outside what the law says and in the wake of the SCOTUS case West Virginia v EPA 2022 (recognizes that 3-letter agencies aren't the Legislative Branch, can't make laws, and there are limits) and this is pretty much the definition of arbitrary (Administrative Procedures Act specifically forbids arbitrary changes.) Although ATF should stand for "Arbitrary Towards Firearms".

BATFE is doing it anyway, Constitution be damned! TPTB at ATF are anti-2A, period, dot. We dodged a bullet (pun intended) when the Chipman (the guy who was somewhere between Gary Busey and a demented chipmunk) nomination was pulled, but the one who got past the Senate is a mainstream anti-2A type so he was acceptable.

Until it gets to a court? This will continue. Until the House and Senate decide too much was delegated to the 3-letter agencies? More of this will continue.

Wrote your congress-critters in DC yet? Post #84 in this thread has a draft letter/email.

 

[foszoe]

That works for ar's, if one is in the mood to comply. There's a bunch of other types of pistols that aren't as modular as ar's. If this goes through, the impact will be deep and wide across the gun world.

Well the goal is to not be in violation of the law but when the rule is stuck down be able to revert.

 

[bwframe]

Arkansas sheriffs say they will not enforce new ATF rule on handgun stabilizing braces

The Garland Co. Sheriff joined several others across the state in announcing Friday he will not enforce a new federal rule that requires the registration of stabilizing braces for handguns.

www.kark.com

 

[Sigblitz]

They don't enforce federal law. Nothing to see here.

 

[KellyinAvon]

They don't enforce federal law. Nothing to see here.

Not providing any support to the feds is more like what would happen. "Hey city-boy! Good luck finding Clem Whistlepig up thar in Possum Holler!!"

 

[tude]

It's a rule that has force of law... hasn't been published to the federal register yet AFAIK.

BATFE can't legally do this since they are WAY outside what the law says and in the wake of the SCOTUS case West Virginia v EPA 2022 (recognizes that 3-letter agencies aren't the Legislative Branch, can't make laws, and there are limits) and this is pretty much the definition of arbitrary (Administrative Procedures Act specifically forbids arbitrary changes.) Although ATF should stand for "Arbitrary Towards Firearms".

BATFE is doing it anyway, Constitution be damned! TPTB at ATF are anti-2A, period, dot. We dodged a bullet (pun intended) when the Chipman (the guy who was somewhere between Gary Busey and a demented chipmunk) nomination was pulled, but the one who got past the Senate is a mainstream anti-2A type so he was acceptable.

Until it gets to a court? This will continue. Until the House and Senate decide too much was delegated to the 3-letter agencies? More of this will continue.

Wrote your congress-critters in DC yet? Post #84 in this thread has a draft letter/email.

Thanks

 

[foszoe]

They don't enforce federal law. Nothing to see here.

So local law enforcement does not turn over anything to federal law enforcement?

 

[Mgderf]

I wonder when the AFT (That's what uncle Joe calls it) is going to reverse their position on the Mossberg shockwave and the Remington Tac 14?

 

[TheGhostRider]

I wonder when the AFT (That's what uncle Joe calls it) is going to reverse their position on the Mossberg shockwave and the Remington Tac 14?

Funny you bring this up. I’ve looked at these several times but continue to pass on them for this concern.
If they “AFT” can stab people in the back on those braced pistols what’s to stop them from putting screws into people who own those shorty shotty’s?