National abortion ban

[rooster]

I’m sorry but if the R’s push this through before we get National carry legislation ( an actual right according to the constitution) then **** them. I’ll vote independent or even dem before I vote for another R since it’s becoming painful apparent that they give two **** what the people want they just do whatever they feel like.

The system is broken.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/lindsey-graham-abortion.html

 

[BigRed]

I’m sorry but if the R’s push this through before we get National carry legislation ( an actual right according to the constitution) then **** them. I’ll vote independent or even dem before I vote for another R since it’s becoming painful apparent that they give two **** what the people want they just do whatever they feel like.

The system is broken.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/lindsey-graham-abortion.html

Neither is a matter for the central state.....and
the system has been broken for at least 160 years.

 

[Twangbanger]

Mitt, Susan, and Lisa. You know the drill.

 

[Onebad06vtx]

I’m sorry but if the R’s push this through before we get National carry legislation ( an actual right according to the constitution) then **** them. I’ll vote independent or even dem before I vote for another R since it’s becoming painful apparent that they give two **** what the people want they just do whatever they feel like.

The system is broken.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/lindsey-graham-abortion.html

So you would vote for Biden?

 

[rooster]

So you would vote for Biden?

obviously I would write in “BigRed”

 

[BigRed]

obviously I would write in “BigRed”

Best choice!

Votes for BigRed seem to get "lost" though....just sayin'.

 

[GranolaFacility]

Yeah. I don't get it. The whole point of the recent Supreme Court decision is that abortion is under the purview of the states, which is absolutely correct constitutionally. How, then, does these "republicans," who are supposed to be defenders of the constitution, plan to pass a national abortion law? It boggles the mind.

 

[N9Zero]

I'm with the R's on this one...

 

[Ark]

15 weeks is plenty of time to make up your mind. Nobody should be complaining about this.

 

[KLB]

15 weeks is plenty of time to make up your mind. Nobody should be complaining about this.

Agreeing with a the word of a law does not equate to agreeing that the government in question should be passing such a law.

 

[chipbennett]

15 weeks is plenty of time to make up your mind. Nobody should be complaining about this.

The complaint surrounds the 9th and 10th amendments. Abortion isn't a federal issue, under the constitution.

I'm not sure what the Senate GOP is playing at. I am cynical enough to suspect that they may be trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of Senate-majority victory.

 

[HoughMade]

The complaint surrounds the 9th and 10th amendments. Abortion isn't a federal issue, under the constitution.

This. It is not and never should have been a federal issue.

Hate the 18th Amendment all you want, but at least back then they realized that you had to amend the Constitution to allow the federal government the power to regulate something the Constitution doesn't explicitly say it can regulate.

 

[Ark]

The complaint surrounds the 9th and 10th amendments. Abortion isn't a federal issue, under the constitution.

I'm not sure what the Senate GOP is playing at. I am cynical enough to suspect that they may be trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of Senate-majority victory.

As I understand it there is nothing in Dobbs that prohibits the passing of legislation in Congress.

 

[chipbennett]

As I understand it there is nothing in Dobbs that prohibits the passing of legislation in Congress.

This misses the point. There is nothing in the constitution that enumerates authority for Congress to legislate regarding abortion.

 

[pmbiker]

The complaint surrounds the 9th and 10th amendments. Abortion isn't a federal issue, under the constitution.

I'm not sure what the Senate GOP is playing at. I am cynical enough to suspect that they may be trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of Senate-majority victory.

This.

Republicans saw the backlash of Roe being struck down. Middle of the road folks want a middle of the road solution. To the uneducated, who don't understand separation of powers, Roe being struck down and some states going to the extreme on abortion bans pushes them left. All of a sudden, our red wave is starting to look like it might peter out and they want to regain votes

 

[KLB]

As I understand it there is nothing in Dobbs that prohibits the passing of legislation in Congress.

That wasn't what they were ruling on.

This misses the point. There is nothing in the constitution that enumerates authority for Congress to legislate regarding abortion.

Exactly.

 

[chipbennett]

This.

Republicans saw the backlash of Roe being struck down. Middle of the road folks want a middle of the road solution. To the uneducated, who don't understand separation of powers, Roe being struck down and some states going to the extreme on abortion bans pushes them left. All of a sudden, our red wave is starting to look like it might peter out and they want to regain votes

Most such "backlash" is fabricated out of whole cloth by the media/DNC propaganda wing.

 

[bobzilla]

Most such "backlash" is fabricated out of whole cloth by the media/DNC propaganda wing.

iSN' IT always?

 

[pmbiker]

Most such "backlash" is fabricated out of whole cloth by the media/DNC propaganda wing.

Maybe.

Maybe not.

I'm not an expert on anything, just a keen observer.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Most such "backlash" is fabricated out of whole cloth by the media/DNC propaganda wing.

Backlash or not, and I think there probably is among a decent chunk of swing voters, I think it's likely to be a bigger issue in the next election than it has been in pre-overturn elections simply because:

Do threats of "assault weapons bans" energize a certain base for the Republicans and get them out to the polls in larger numbers?

Do you think there are a solid chunk of single issue voters in the Democrat base who react similarly to abortion?