Don't forget the folks that claim they can shoot .5 inch groups at 200 yards all day while standing.You guys are all using the traditional definition of 1/2 MOA. Here on the internet, 1/2 MOA is a 3 shot group with 2 "called" fliers.
Don't forget the folks that claim they can shoot .5 inch groups at 200 yards all day while standing.
I think the big trick to a 1/2 MOA rifle is going to be finding the right ammo. 1/2 MOA ammo is a lot trickier than people realize.
You can't?
I spent over $5K on one of my AI's back in the day and before I ever pulled the trigger on it I "had" to have a new barrel spun up for it..... So even out of the box, "top tier" guns get money sunk into them and the fact of the mater is there is no way to gauge how any gun will shoot until you shoot it with your ammo.
I've seen out of the box savages and remmys shoot lights out at 100, couple months later someone with an almost identical setup has a hard time holding MOA.
Anything mass produced will always have that factor built into it. Assembly line guns are like a cracker jack box. You gotta eat a lot of cracker jacks or just have a horseshoe up your ass to score that 1 in 1000 prize.
As many others have said, for a true 1/2" MOA rifle, expect to spend many, many times that, and then hand the rifle to a 1/2 MOA shooter, lol.Any suggestions for a 1/2" MOA rifle straight out of the box in .308 win under $ 1000.
Thanks.
Time, definitely. But I don't think it necessarily takes loads of cash anymore. I have gotten into long range shooting, using a rifle that cost $825 and a $500 scope. Ammo is expensive, but 50 rounds can be a full day of shooting. (Granted, I'm certainly not real F-class competition. If I'm shooting MOA I'm a happy shooter.)
The biggest thing that it took for me was to stop chasing the next greatest gun, and start working with the one I have, and spend time LEARNING, whether from experience shooting, or from reading. Long range shooting definitely ranks as some of my favorite kind of shooting now.
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I would bet most mass-produced factory rifles made today have better mechanical accuracy potential than 95%+ of shooters can wring out of them.
Ah, you've identified the weak link in the system...human error.I would bet most mass-produced factory rifles made today have better mechanical accuracy potential than 95%+ of shooters can wring out of them.
I wonder where the OP went
Smacked in the face with 1/2moa reality
I have followed this thread and absolutely appreciate the input from people who know what they're talking about. When I saw the title, I thought, "Yeah, I want to know what that gun is, too!" for a possible hunting rifle purchase. But, I know I'm not a good enough shooter to get that kind of group, I also know that I don't need it.
But, that's raised a somewhat different question to my math-impaired brain. How small of a movement (in mm, I guess) at the origin point would still be within .5 MOA? Just curious.
1 moa is 1/60th of 1 degree. So half that.