Indy_Guy_77
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- Apr 30, 2008
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I could care less... carry deep concealed if you wanna carry. My 2 cents.
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You don't care about the government taking away your right when you cross an invisible line? What were we discussing in the Post Office thread?
You don't care about the government taking away your right when you cross an invisible line? What were we discussing in the Post Office thread?
Yes. Just as, from my understanding, I can't carry on the Ohio River (while locking through). But whatever.
BTW, if the woods are owned by ACoE, then no-no.
Page 10 I believe
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/usa.pdf
It all depends on who owns the "woods". ACoE will typically own up to a certain elevation surrounding the reservoir - kind of like a highest-of-the-high flood stage. In low-lying areas, this can be a lot of real estate between private property and ACoE zones.
In steep terrain - it may be a relatively thin strip.
Hmm.. I hike out there all the time and sometimes wide up at the water. Seems like total bs that I have to disarm when I see the waters edge. I'll keep carrying and hope for the best.
That is a question for the lawyers. Typically, these cases are limited to the geographical boundaries that divide the different courts. Like a ruling in Wyoming Supreme Court only affects Wyoming. A ruling in an appellate court generally only affects those states within that court's jurisdiction. There was a discussion in the comments about whether or not that standard is applicable here because the defendant in this case is ACoE and it involves a regulation that applies from sea to shining sea. I don't know the answer. Logically, I don't see how it can be arbitrarily okay to enforce here, but not there. But then we know nothing about our laws and courts is all that logical.So this injunction makes it legal for us to? I would think the feds would say, "hey, these dams are sensitive places." I fish ACoE properties a lot and would love to be allowed to carry while doing so.
Lawyers what say ye?
He did say he could care less, which implies some level of care does exist.So... You care a little bit?
That is a question for the lawyers. Typically, these cases are limited to the geographical boundaries that divide the different courts. Like a ruling in Wyoming Supreme Court only affects Wyoming. A ruling in an appellate court generally only affects those states within that court's jurisdiction. There was a discussion in the comments about whether or not that standard is applicable here because the defendant in this case is ACoE and it involves a regulation that applies from sea to shining sea. I don't know the answer. Logically, I don't see how it can be arbitrarily okay to enforce here, but not there. But then we know nothing about our laws and courts is all that logical.
He did say he could care less, which implies some level of care does exist.
My understanding was that since it is a ruling against a specific agency, it affects the entire agency, regardless of what geographical region they are operating in.Typically, these cases are limited to the geographical boundaries that divide the different courts.
Yes, that is part of the debate.My understanding was that since it is a ruling against a specific agency, it affects the entire agency, regardless of what geographical region they are operating in.
I'd listen to the lawyers...Any updates on this?
"preliminary nationwide injunction"On January 7, 2014, the district court held a hearing regarding the motion to dismiss and for a preliminary injunction. On January 10, 2014, the district court issued a memorandum decision and order denying the motion to dismiss and granting the motion for a preliminary nationwide injunction.
Morris v. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
"preliminary nationwide injunction"
Seems to be a nationwide injunction ATM, unless that page does not have all the current info.
Who enforces federal law/code on ACOE property? (like Lake Monroe)
Morris v. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
"preliminary nationwide injunction"
Seems to be a nationwide injunction ATM, unless that page does not have all the current info.