Is 4 years in fed prison stiff enough sentence for Fred Ludington?

[bthomas]

I think not, all the straw hat purchases is kinda scary. Over $4000 in sales to a known felon. and why would any dealer have a guns marked as sold in the books and still have them in inventory ( maybe to launder money)? If your not familiar with the story. He was a gun store owner and the ATF seized over 4000 guns and who knows how many rounds of ammo. Maybe if he wasn't such an a$$ hole, he wouldn't have needed to make illegal sales.

 

[mcolford]

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/break_room/194001-ludco_owner_going_to_meet_bubba.html

Dupe thread.

 

[bthomas]

Im just asking the opinion of everyone if its a just sentence

 

[Bert]

lot longer sentence than any fast and furious felons will get

 

[IndyDave1776]

lot longer sentence than any fast and furious felons will get

Holder for Inmate 2012!

 

[EvilBlackGun]

"Let him among you who is without sin ..."

"... cast the first stone." Eh? Let's all talk about something where we all know all the facts, like Zimmerman and Trayvon, alright?

 

[bthomas]

I guess I got something personal against the guy, he acted like your a dumba-- for asking any questions.

 

[EvilBlackGun]

It takes an ******* to call someone you don't know, an *******. IMHO.

Oh, yeah, them there straw-hat buys will get every-one in trouble.

I think not, all the straw hat purchases is kinda scary. Over $4000 in sales to a known felon. and why would any dealer have a guns marked as sold in the books and still have them in inventory ( maybe to launder money)? If your not familiar with the story. He was a gun store owner and the ATF seized over 4000 guns and who knows how many rounds of ammo. Maybe if he wasn't such an a$$ hole, he wouldn't have needed to make illegal sales.

 

[handgun]

he is old 61 if i remember right. that would put him at 65.. if i remember right Fed time is Fed time no time off.. Time is something all too precious especially as we get older.

 

[bthomas]

Did I know him? No. Have I been in his shop then he roll his eyes and sigh when I ask a question? Yes on more than one occasion. I dont know about you but to me that would qualify you as a the a-- hole. I would say at least 75% of people that have met him would say the same.

 

[bthomas]

I read that you have to serve 85% of fed time

 

[BE Mike]

I think not, all the straw hat purchases is kinda scary. Over $4000 in sales to a known felon. and why would any dealer have a guns marked as sold in the books and still have them in inventory ( maybe to launder money)? If your not familiar with the story. He was a gun store owner and the ATF seized over 4000 guns and who knows how many rounds of ammo. Maybe if he wasn't such an a$$ hole, he wouldn't have needed to make illegal sales.

I think they are called "straw man" purchases. Some folks just have to dance around the gun laws or out-and-out knowingly violate them. They really don't deserve their freedom IMHO. I don't want guns in the hands of prohibited persons. Not knowing all the details, at his age, 4 years is probably an appropriate sentence. He probably won't be dealing firearms anymore and that is a relief.

 

[JettaKnight]

Wait, is this right? The guy get audits and has a huge number of "mistakes", and THEN makes bad sales? I would think if you've just got bad audit and painted a big bullseye on yourself you'd know better than allow straw purchases. Serious lack of common sense and regard for the law.

This guy makes us all look bad.

 

[in625shooter]

I read that you have to serve 85% of fed time

This ^^^ is a true statement. a person serving Federal sentence gets somewhere around 53 ish days a year good time earned but if released say 6 months early they would have the remainder under court supervision aka probation!

 

[handgun]

I read that you have to serve 85% of fed time

This ^^^ is a true statement. a person serving Federal sentence gets somewhere around 53 ish days a year good time earned but if released say 6 months early they would have the remainder under court supervision aka probation!

Well that is interesting.

 

[Colt556]

It's not only the actual jail time it's also the loss of his business, inventory, cash and being convicted of a felony. No more guns EVER! No right to vote. Where is a convicted 65yo felon going to start a new career? I'm not defending him or his actions by any means, but I also don't like to kick a dog when he's down. His life is pretty much ruined by this.

 

[EvilBlackGun]

Yeah, but ....

... if you were in his shop one day and he "rolled his eyes at you" SURELY that would be condemning enough!! I mean, he COULDN'T have heard THAT many dumb-a$$ question in that day. Throw away the key!! EBG

It's not only the actual jail time it's also the loss of his business, inventory, cash and being convicted of a felony. No more guns EVER! No right to vote. Where is a convicted 65yo felon going to start a new career? I'm not defending him or his actions by any means, but I also don't like to kick a dog when he's down. His life is pretty much ruined by this.

 

[BE Mike]

It's not only the actual jail time it's also the loss of his business, inventory, cash and being convicted of a felony. No more guns EVER! No right to vote. Where is a convicted 65yo felon going to start a new career? I'm not defending him or his actions by any means, but I also don't like to kick a dog when he's down. His life is pretty much ruined by this.

For some, age brings wisdom. Others learn nothing over the years. He won't be getting any sympathy from me.

 

[Jubba]

For some, age brings wisdom. Others learn nothing over the years. He won't be getting any sympathy from me.

+1
He did it to himself.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I do not think he should spend a day in prison. Bunch of stupid laws and regulations.