If you are carrying in Indy and in downtown, read this

[dukeboy_318]

Stumbled on this just now, I didnt see it posted anywhere else so ill post it up. Looks like they are giving IMPD the go ahead to "aggressively" seek out "illegal guns" being carried downtown.


Police bear down on guns Downtown | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com

 

[Dogman]

Good for IMPD, they're doing what the public wants getting illegal guns and criminals off the street.

 

[Cemetery-man]

Probably not a good place to OC unless you like aggressive confrontation.

 

[JetGirl]

Couple things...

Police are beefing up patrols and homing in on illegal gun owners who come Downtown

"If you have an illegal firearm, don't come Downtown,"

Um...how do they know if you're a legal (and law-abiding) gun owner or not, unless the plan is to treat everybody like they are bad guys until they sort out the difference?

Patrol officers also will aggressively enforce traffic violations to sniff out illegal guns,

I hope my gun smells legal.
I better start using Hoppes instead of Ballistol. 1946 says Ballistol stinks...I don't want that to be confused with "illegal".

 

[ATM]

Probably not a good place to OC unless you like

Mmm... I likes me some aggressive confrontation...

 

[Dogman]

Mmm... I likes me some aggressive confrontation...

Then you'll get invited to sit down and talk over a Guinness!

 

[nate1865]

So much for innocent until proven guilty.

I do approve of their efforts to keep guns out of the wrong hands, but I'm not sure I approve of the way they're approaching it.

Too many cops with an overly-authoritarian approach to law enforcement and not enough servant mentality to the good citizens of our society.

 

[88GT]

Probably not a good place to OC unless you like aggressive confrontation.

INGO already knew that. If not by direct experience, then vicariously through others.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A great deal will depend upon how the police carry out this enforcement action. If they are polite and inquire if individuals possess a LTCH before they get excited, incidents will probably pass quietly. If they start cuffing folks before they ask for a LTCH, things will get ugly. But I won't be involved in any case; I stay away from Downtown.

 

[cornfused]

This is gonna get good!

 

[rockhopper46038]

I hope everyone acts responsibly. I have no problem with an LEO asking politely to see my LTCH if they observe me carrying downtown. Don't ask for my gun. Don't shout at me. Don't assault me and for God's sake don't shoot me. Just ask politely to see my LTCH and then say "thank you" and walk away when I produce it. Yes, I know there is no RS or PC to ask me, but I will comply with this polite request.

Gunowners, please don't handle your holstered weapon in public unless you are required to do so by life threatening circumstance. Don't threaten use of your firearm. Do not put foolishly put yourself in situations or locations on the expectation your gun will be a magic hall pass to be stupid. Be polite and assist our LEO friends in removing truly illegal weapons from the hands of criminals.

 

[rbrthenderson]

Gunowners, please don't handle your holstered weapon in public unless you are required to do so by life threatening circumstance. Don't threaten use of your firearm. Do not put foolishly put yourself in situations or locations on the expectation your gun will be a magic hall pass to be stupid.

Not really sure where this came from... That's my mindset everyday I carry anyway.

As for being polite and following the officer's request, I will be polite as long as they are polite. We are both law abiding citizens...

 

[Bill of Rights]

I have no skin in this particular game as I also avoid downtown Indy, but while I fundamentally disagree that officers should be asking to see my LTCH (I'd also disagree with a checkpoint where everyone on the road was stopped to see their DL,) I'll comply with the request to see it, wherever I happen to be when the LEO asks.

I am curious what an "illegal gun" is, though. Guns, with few exceptions under IN law, are neither legal nor illegal, though some people are prevented by law from having them.

Maybe the IMPD are all over downtown looking for SBSs?

Blessings,
Bill

 

[rockhopper46038]

Not really sure where this came from....

It came from me, as one part of the message I posted above, silly!

 

[Marc]

i could see some lawsuits on impd if they dont handle themselves appropriately. there is a time to show aggression and thats when you KNOW you got a bg, no need to be an A-hole when asking for a ltch and if the person says he doesnt have a ltch, then its time for the leo to stop being nice

if i get drawn on, thrown to the ground, stripped of my gun and placed in cuffs just cause they didnt know if i was lgeal or not then there are going to be some big problems for the state. when a simple question like "got a license for that" could have avoided that incident and alot of money on the states part

 

[rbrthenderson]

It came from me, as one part of the message I posted above, silly!

What I meant was that I like to think a comment like that wouldn't need to be made on INGO. Most of us seem to have a good sense of gun safety and common sense.... I do agree with your posts though!

 

[Josh Ward]

I am curious what an "illegal gun" is, though. Guns, with few exceptions under IN law, are neither legal nor illegal, though some people are prevented by law from having them.


Blessings,
Bill

^^^THIS^^^

 

[rambone]

Sweet, I can't wait to be treated like a criminal while the government steps up its gun control enforcement.

 

[4sarge]

Check Out the establishment of Green Zones for Downtown Indianapolis. Not a Tin Foil Hat Rumor actual Plan for Metal Detectors, Wand searches, Pat Downs, No Guns Allowed for Downtown Indy. Plan was Prepared for the 2012 Super Bowl but once Big Government has a plan, why stop there or with just one Activity

 

[DRob]

Experts rise as usual

Just a thought. If you were the guy who had to do the job, and you saw somebody carrying a handgun, wouldn't your first thought be about safety, both for yourself and others? You whiners who yap about being treated like a criminal until proven innocent apparently think somebody can tell just be looking at you that you are not a criminal. So, crime fighting experts.....please tell us exactly how a cop who has never laid eyes on you before is going to make the determination as to whether you are a complete psycho with a stolen gun who came downtown just to shoot somebody or a law abiding citizen.