How is this not a foregrip?

[Johnny C]

 

[Usmccookie]

What's the complaint?

 

[fullmetaljesus]

How is the mini roni not an sbr?

How are "braces" on ar pistols not stocks?

It's all just skirting around the law. I suspect the hammer will drop on these things in the coming weeks/years


(For the record I don't support these laws, all guns laws are an infringement)

 

[Route 45]

I don't think that "foregrip" is really defined by law, but someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I wouldn't think that the device shown is a foregrip, since you can't get your hand all the way around it. I personally wouldn't want my hand that close to the muzzle, so it's likely a bad idea all the way round, whatever the law is.

 

[Route 45]

Reminds me of this.

 

[IndyDave1776]

By the looks of it, it is an answer looking for a question regardless of how you classify it in terms of .gov overreach and retardedness.

 

[snorko]

ATF defines a vertical foregrip as being 90 degrees. Hence angled foregrips are OK (for now). Some folks try to fly close to the sun, the riskiest being the BCM Gunfighter grip which is just a few degrees off vertical.

 

[WebSnyper]

How is the mini roni not an sbr?

How are "braces" on ar pistols not stocks?

It's all just skirting around the law. I suspect the hammer will drop on these things in the coming weeks/years


(For the record I don't support these laws, all guns laws are an infringement)

I understand you don't support these laws, but when folks say "skirt" the law it provides a negative connotation. Seems to me the responsibility is on folks that write the laws to put in the law what they mean, and the folks following the law can go right up to that point. Is going 55 in a 55 MPH zone "skirting the law?

 

[fullmetaljesus]

I understand you don't support these laws, but when folks say "skirt" the law it provides a negative connotation. Seems to me the responsibility is on folks that write the laws to put in the law what the mean, and the folks following the law can go right up to that point. Is going 55 in a 55 MPH zone "skirting the law?

Where as I agree laws should be written more literally. However, your 55mph premise is not a good example. The speed limit is easily read and followed.
This is more like that story where a kid got in trouble at school for selling sandwiches, they told him he was towed to anymore so he started selling paper plates. Each paper plate purchase came with a free sandwich.

 

[WebSnyper]

Where as I agree laws should be written more literally. However, your 55mph premise is not a good example. The speed limit is easily read and followed.
This is more like that story where a kid got in trouble at school for selling sandwiches, they told him he was towed to anymore so he started selling paper plates. Each paper plate purchase came with a free sandwich.

My point is that loopholes are created by those who write the laws... Sometimes done so out of ignorance, sometimes done intentionally to benefit certain parties, and for various other reasons.

In this case, if the poster above is correct and it's defined as 90 degrees (I'm not versed if it is or isn't).. then anything less, say 89 degrees, is legal is it not?

 

[Thor]

All things will end up being foregrips; all things will end up being illegal until all power rests with those who would rule us and those who would reeducate us, dominate us and take all that we make.

 

[KokomoDave]

I like sammiches!

 

[Mongo59]

What? Are you referring to the patented forward magazine holder?