How Biden can unite the country

[Route 45]

I haven't voted for either party in 8 years, don't plan to go back.

Then your votes are irrelevant.

 

[Wolfhound]

I’ll just leave this here.

Nationalism is an idea and movement that promotes the interests of a particular nation (as in a group of people), especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining the nation's sovereignty (self-governance) over its homeland.

 

[jkoontzie]

Then your votes are irrelevant.

A vote cast for a candidate that you believe is best suited for the job is never wasted. Continuing to elect the same parties that got us here is what is keeping us here. I have no regrets.

 

[Route 45]

A vote cast for a candidate that you believe is best suited for the job is never wasted. Continuing to elect the same parties that got us here is what is keeping us here. I have no regrets.

At some point, warm fuzzy feelings have to take reality into account.

 

[foszoe]

At some point, warm fuzzy feelings have to take reality into account.

I'll take the warm and fuzzy and leave you with reality!

 

[drillsgt]

No, that's not what encompasses the whole of nationalism, in the modern sense. I would expect a patriot to look out for their country before another.

No, it's pretty much how I described it, it's not a complicated concept. If by the modern sense do you mean how over the last four years democrats have tried to pervert it and make it sound like some sort of awful concept lol?

 

[flightsimmer]

It is now too late for any kind of unity.
Uncle Joe is pushing the senate to convict Trump. The house rushed through the articles of impeachment.
The RINOS in the congress may have seen their last term come 2022, I hope so. I'm just sorry I don't live in a district where I can vote against them in the primary's.

The hipocracy of the left is stifuling and they don't care if you know it, what do you think you're going to do about it sucker. And by the way were coming after you, Kamala said so.
The Democrats in leadership roles are pure evil and only God can save us from ourselves.

Pray and pray hard lest you fall into temptation and do something you will regret, it's God's fight against evil, let him handle it.

 

[Kutnupe14]

No, it's pretty much how I described it, it's not a complicated concept. If by the modern sense do you mean how over the last four years democrats have tried to pervert it and make it sound like some sort of awful concept lol?

Nationalism IS an awful concept. It’s not the same as being patriotic. You clearly don’t understand the differences, and that’s not meant to be a knock, it’s just the truth. The idea of the modern nationalist movements are 20th Century ideologies and something that has plunged us into two world wars, and countless armed conflicts. If care enough to inform yourself, look it up.

 

[drillsgt]

Nationalism IS an awful concept. It’s not the same as being patriotic. You clearly don’t understand the differences, and that’s not meant to be a knock, it’s just the truth. The idea of the modern nationalist movements are 20th Century ideologies and something that has plunged us into two world wars, and countless armed conflicts. If care enough to inform yourself, look it up.

Thanks, i'm well versed in the differences and understand them well so I have to disagree with you.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Thanks, i'm well versed in the differences and understand them well so I have to disagree with you.

Might I inquire as to which books or pamphlets you might have read that gave you your knowledge on the subject?

 

[Wolfhound]

I think one side of this discussion is trying to use the Webster/Wiki definition of Nationalist and the other the Occupy Democrats definition. Germany went off the rails in the 1930’s when the National Socialist party took over. The Left wants to embrace socialism so they have to blame that extremism on the Nationalist part while ignoring the Socialist part. Sort of rewriting history yet again. Straight out of the Marxist playbook.

Just my opinion of course.

 

[drillsgt]

Might I inquire as to which books or pamphlets you might have read that gave you your knowledge on the subject?

All of them.

 

[Kutnupe14]

All of them.

Ok, can you at least give me an example of a nation, outside the US (which actually doesn’t apply), historical or current, that exhibits the nationalism you envision?

 

[Doug]

Webster's definition of nationalism is "loyalty and devotion to a nation."

To some people, "nationalism" includes hatred for and a desire to subjugate every person in existence who does not agree completely with your particular political and social ideals. The definition doesn't say that.

It seems what one calls love of country, another calls desire for world domination.

I love my country, but I don't want the U.S. to conquer any other country.

 

[spec4]

Gotta jump in here. IMO Biden is not interested in "Uniting" us, he had 47 years in congress to do that. His only concern is to follow the leftist agenda to enslave us. Look at what he is surrounding himself with.

I have zero interest in what the buffoon tells us. For at least the next four years we are in for some serious tough times.

 

[buckwacker]

No, it's pretty much how I described it, it's not a complicated concept. If by the modern sense do you mean how over the last four years democrats have tried to pervert it and make it sound like some sort of awful concept lol?

Nationalism is just a word today's democrats use to make patriotism sound bad to the ignorant and uninformed. Those nationalist, fascist, Nazi Republicans.

 

[JettaKnight]

Webster's definition of nationalism is "loyalty and devotion to a nation."

To some people, "nationalism" includes hatred for and a desire to subjugate every person in existence who does not agree completely with your particular political and social ideals. The definition doesn't say that.

It seems what one calls love of country, another calls desire for world domination.

I love my country, but I don't want the U.S. to conquer any other country.

Isn't that the definition of patriotism?

No knock on you, but I cringe whenever I hear "Webster's dictionary..." because there really hasn't been an actual, true "Webster's Dictionary" published since 1845. Since then, a whole host of books slap poor Noah's name on it to get sales.

Thanks, i'm well versed in the differences and understand them well so I have to disagree with you.

You might want to talk to a German about this.


This really has nothing to do with anything new within the last decade or more. As I see it, nationalism ramps up patriotism to the point where one views his nation (which is often an ethnicity) as so superior that subjugation of others is a logical step.

I'll agree that nationalism has taken on a more derogatory connotation, but AFAIK, it was never generally viewed as a favorable trait.

 

[JettaKnight]

Nationalism is just a word today's democrats use to make patriotism sound bad to the ignorant and uninformed. Those nationalist, fascist, Nazi Republicans.

Well, I'm not ignorant or uniformed and it sounds bad to me.

 

[buckwacker]

Well, I'm not ignorant or uniformed and it sounds bad to me.

Maybe reread my words, a little more carefully this time.

 

[BugI02]

Or how about the take over of the wildlife center? Are you wanting me to dig up violent protests by the right to show parity? I’m not sure what that would prove.

Yes, Malheur is a perfect example. Up until one of the protestors was waylaid and murdered in an ambush, there was an 'occupation' - you know, kind of like Democrats staging a sit-in in the well of the House, only with adults and no crying - but no violence

Similarly, protestors were occupying the capitol, and then the Capitol Police ambushed an unarmed protestor, murdering her

Mr Young tells me that protestors should never be shot, regardless of the circumstances