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[Dr Falken]

Homeless; I think that you bring up some valid points, especially about insulin, etc. In the event of a situation of any length and breadth, there will be a large die off in the population just from a lack of medication, be it for HIV, Diabetes(sp), cancer, transplant patients, dialysis patients etc. Just in time systems are just not going to work and will not be rapidly replaced.

The Earthquake scenario would be pretty tough on the US, even if you weren't in the immediate area. A quake in the New Madrid area would clog the Mississippi, and destroy most of St. Louis. Chicago would have issues as the Loop is built on landfill out into Lake Michigan. Transportation and supply would be very difficult, not to mention a high deathtoll, and what if it happened in the dead of winter during an ice storm? Disasters don't preclude other disasters, kinda like cascading failure.

 

[VN Vet]

The fact of the matter is, it is time to stop worrying about hypothetical issues and start thinking about the real life issues that confront us right now. Like how our own government it hell bent on enslaving the American people and turning us into a socialized nation. As most of us have never really known freedom, maybe the transition to total slavery wont be too painful...

As spooky as many of these posts read, I think this one may just be the scarriest, becauseI believe it is the most likely to happen and it can happen over night. Socialism will be handed to us while the Nation sleeps and I believe many, if not most of the U.S. people, will not even care.

 

[Richard]

Will not even care? LOL they voted for it!

 

[CarmelHP]

but will not be looking to cause chaos, just Rape, Theft, and extortion.

Just?

As far an NBC type attack, Indy is fairly low on the probability list. Even when you take into account the massige industrial base that is here. (There are companies that make cruise missle launchers and others that make portable satilite communication rigs in indy) We have the benifit of being very close to higher priority targets, so as long as we aren't engaged in Full Scale Thermo Nuclear War we should be ok. So the million dollar question of "WHO?" : Well if Indy gets hit I would actually start thinking about a False Flag type event. That statement may not be popular, but it must be considered.

Islamists are most likely, mainly Iran. If they launch a nuke, it will most likely be delivered by a relatively short range missile somewhere off the coasts. 100 million people live within 50 miles of the Atlantic coast, all within range. A missile fired anywhere is likely to kill tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.

 

[homeless]

CarmelHP,

I do agree that they are the most active terror group to go fulltilt with a nuke. However I don't believe that they are the most likely to go after Indy. In the eyes of most groups like that there are much better targets across this country, and better targets in this area (chicago, st louis detriot)

 

[Ashkelon]

My money is on the homegrown terrorist. I feel I have less to fear from a militant Islamic thousands of miles away than I do from someone as US as country of origin. There are a lot of disenchanted people out there in our struggling economy and a nut job like Tim McVeigh could be around any corner.
The Islamic fundamentalist here in America? I think once they get off the plane they get a sense of how closely they are monitored in our society. Cuts back opportunity.
Its the homegrown guy operating in the cover of the wide open that concerns me.

 

[homeless]

McVeigh was off to be sure, however there is much to be reexamined about the Oklahoma City bombing. Furthermore in the event of a HGT what do you think there target of attack will be and the intended purpose of it? What methods are you thinking about? And what will the government responce be and how will society as a whole, and you specifically react to that?

 

[rhino]

"Homegrown terrorists" are unlikely (in my opinion) to indiscriminantly kill people they perceive to be innocent. Yeah, they will accept collateral damage in order to destroy their objective, but I don't think many (if any) want to kill all of us the way those from the outside do (e.g. various and sundry Islamo-Fascists).

 

[homeless]

I would certainly agree with Rhino on this. HGTs either are or envision themselves at patriots on some fashion. They are not looking to terrorize the general populus. The are trying to either strike back at the government or spark there own war. I think there will be much talk about them in the years to come. Holder will pick up where Reno left off. That might just activate some of these sleepers.

 

[Ashkelon]

I hope you guys are right about the HGT. I think the disturbing trend is going to be the identification of "terrorist". I think any group with differing political or economic ideas than status quo are likely to be targeted under this administration as the economy and unemployment tightens the margins of civility. When people become desperate their moral codes tend to morph as do their politics. Lets just hope this rough patch will pass in peace.

 

[4sarge]

I hope you guys are right about the HGT. I think the disturbing trend is going to be the identification of "terrorist". I think any group with differing political or economic ideas than status quo are likely to be targeted under this administration as the economy and unemployment tightens the margins of civility. When people become desperate their moral codes tend to morph as do their politics. Lets just hope this rough patch will pass in peace.

Agreed

 

[rhino]

Indeed. Let's not ever forget that a significant element in the Federal gov't civilian army consider anyone who says the word "Constitution" more than a couple of times in their life a "potential terrorist."

Maybe we need our own definition.

 

[Richard]

I think the disturbing trend is going to be the identification of "terrorist".

I fear that the same thing that happened with "racist!" will happen with "terrorist!"