Fort Wayne Citilink buses end firearm ban IAW new state law

[finity]

Good news for the people of Fort Wayne. At least the city bus directors understand what the new law says.

Citilink to let riders carry guns on its buses | The Journal Gazette | Fort Wayne, IN

I thought it was "funny" that the guy said the restriction was being lifted on the "down low" because they didn't really want everyone to know they could now carry on the bus.

 

[JetGirl]

I heard a "reporter" (<---using that term loosely) interviewing some people about it on the radio a short while back. They were really trying to ramp up public fear... the person being interviewed was kind of ambivalent about it, but the reporter was saying stuff like, "So, does it make you afraid to ride the bus KNOWING that any person on there could have a GUN? How do you feel knowing you could be sitting THAT CLOSE to a gun?? "

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

HUH?!

What did he just say?

"Fred Lanahan, Citilink board president, said he hopes the new law won’t lead to any problems, but he does believe it goes too far.
“I don’t see there’s any need to allow guns with or without permit on public transportation,” he said."

Without a permit? That's a crime you goofball! He can't see any distinction between law abiding citizens with a LTCH and a criminal. Who put this braniac in charge?

 

[JetGirl]

What did he just say?

"Fred Lanahan, Citilink board president, said he hopes the new law won’t lead to any problems, but he does believe it goes too far.
“I don’t see there’s any need to allow guns with or without permit on public transportation,” he said."

Without a permit? That's a crime you goofball! He can't see any distinction between law abiding citizens with a LTCH and a criminal. Who put this braniac in charge?

I'm sure he must have meant people carrying long guns.

j/k

 

[walt o]

Maybe he is for constitutional carry as in Arizona?

 

[lon]

...I thought it was "funny" that the guy said the restriction was being lifted on the "down low" because they didn't really want everyone to know they could now carry on the bus.

Right, that one caught my eye too.

"Housden admitted concern of even talking about the new law because he didn’t want to broadcast the fact people would be allowed to carry guns on public transportation."

What a chickensh!t way to go through life...typical grabber mentality

 

[Armed-N-Ready]

If ignorance is bliss .....

this idiot is in seventh heaven. I wonder if they realize how close they come to a firearm every day. There are a lot of CC people in Fort Wayne. I had the satisfaction of standing next to and speaking with Paul Helmke while CCing. If he only knew. "A free people ought to be armed" as a wise man once said.

 

[Markedup]

In my opinion, Ft. Wayne PTC General Manager
Ken Housden stuck his foot in his mouth on
WOWO this morning. Citilink General Manager Ken Housden on Citilink Letting Riders Carry Guns on Its Buses

He talks about "permit" and mandatory concealed carry.
I think he should stick to speaking to things of which
he has a working FACTUAL knowledge.

Thanks

Mark

 

[JohnP82]

this idiot is in seventh heaven. I wonder if they realize how close they come to a firearm every day. There are a lot of CC people in Fort Wayne. I had the satisfaction of standing next to and speaking with Paul Helmke while CCing. If he only knew. "A free people ought to be armed" as a wise man once said.

 

[andreb89]

Sorry to bring up an old post but me and a few co-workers have been looking into laws and the 2nd amendment....while I do not wish to deny anyone their 2nd amendment rights I think this is bull**** "The proposed policy would ban Citilink drivers and employees from carrying any weapons while on duty. Lanahan said there was no consideration to allow drivers to carry guns now that passengers can. He said he hopes the state legislature would reconsider the law next year."......how stupid the time I feel most at risk I cant have my firearm or even a pocket knofe in fear for my job! Btw I do have a ltch and I do carry all but 8 hrs of the day!!!

 

[Scout]

In my opinion, Ft. Wayne PTC General Manager
Ken Housden stuck his foot in his mouth on
WOWO this morning. Citilink General Manager Ken Housden on Citilink Letting Riders Carry Guns on Its Buses

He talks about "permit" and mandatory concealed carry.
I think he should stick to speaking to things of which
he has a working FACTUAL knowledge.

Thanks

Mark

Mandatory concealed carry? So everyone must carry in order to ride the bus?

 

[andreb89]

That would be fine by me assuming drivers could aswell.....its funny that they changed rules to be compliant with laws but says mandatory concealed carry.....no where on my pink piece of paper does it say how to carry!

 

[Mr. Habib]

The law is clear; they can't mandate how you carry. Carry however you chose.

 

[harrna02]

Mandatory concealed carry? So everyone must carry in order to ride the bus?

i actually heard this on wowo. all i could think was that this guy has absolutely no clue what he was talking about. a lot of people can deal with being exposed when having no clue when talking about a subject. really bad when it is so obvious and broadcasted!

 

[harrna02]

this idiot is in seventh heaven. I wonder if they realize how close they come to a firearm every day. There are a lot of CC people in Fort Wayne. I had the satisfaction of standing next to and speaking with Paul Helmke while CCing. If he only knew. "A free people ought to be armed" as a wise man once said.

thats the great thing about cc. i carry for protection. if people see it, they will get worked up. or me, it is there if i need it and nobody knows until they learn they picked the wrong person to rob/threaten etc..

 

[SteveM4A1]

thats the great thing about cc. i carry for protection. if people see it, they will get worked up. or me, it is there if i need it and nobody knows until they learn they picked the wrong person to rob/threaten etc..

Or the criminal(s) got the drop on you and you are dead. The criminal has the element of surprise, not you. Think.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

thats the great thing about cc. i carry for protection. if people see it, they will get worked up. or me, it is there if i need it and nobody knows until they learn they picked the wrong person to rob/threaten etc..

You'll have to try harder, dude.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry-issues-self-defense/71996-open-carry-argument.html

 

[harrna02]

You'll have to try harder, dude.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry-issues-self-defense/71996-open-carry-argument.html

Please clarify the try harder. Are you just saying that my argument is not strong. If so, I understand that the open carry argument can be pretty strong for both sides (open carry vs CC). I was simply stating my perspective that I would prefer no one knowing that I am carrying. SteveM4A1 has very valid point that the criminal has the element of surprise. I do not dispute this. But if I am CC'ing, there is an element of surprise on my end as they do not know that I am carrying. I am not saying that CC is better or more preferred by all, just that it is what I prefer. I have nothing against someone who chooses to open carry. IT is there right and has numerous benefits.

 

[TheSpark]

Please clarify the try harder. Are you just saying that my argument is not strong. If so, I understand that the open carry argument can be pretty strong for both sides (open carry vs CC). I was simply stating my perspective that I would prefer no one knowing that I am carrying. SteveM4A1 has very valid point that the criminal has the element of surprise. I do not dispute this. But if I am CC'ing, there is an element of surprise on my end as they do not know that I am carrying. I am not saying that CC is better or more preferred by all, just that it is what I prefer. I have nothing against someone who chooses to open carry. IT is there right and has numerous benefits.

There are advantages to both concealed and open carry. Neither has any major disadvantage that would cause me to recommend it not be practiced. I think this is a choice everyone should make for themselves and others should respect that decision. Personally I have chosen concealed carry. I'll list a few of my reasons:

1) I don't want to have to actively avoid places that don't appreciate guns. This means if I open carried I would have to disarm, cover up, or avoid the location. Disarming is not ideal at all. Covering up means you have to practice two methods of carry. Avoiding all the locations will make life difficult. I see always concealed as the perfect solution here.

2) I personally don't want others to know I carry. Why? Well, I just don't. Personal preference.

3) I do not like to draw attention to myself in any way. I'm kind of a shy person and I prefer not to draw attention. I know most people wont care if I did open carry.

4) Do not want confrontation with police. One of Indiana's worst laws on the books is the requirement for you to prove you are exempt from the laws making carrying illegal. This law basically, from my understanding, makes it possible for an officer to stop you if they see you open carrying and detain you until they determine, based on your responsibility to prove, that you are legally carrying.

5) The dreaded mistake. If I make a mistake and wander somewhere that I legally can't carry a weapon it is very unlikely I will be "outed" if I'm concealing. If I'm open carrying I'm basically waving a flag saying "arrest me". Now, I know the laws pretty well and I'm sure most open carriers know them even better and would say this is a moot point. However, we are all humans and make mistakes. How many times have you completely forgot about your sidearm because you are so use to it? Or, are you 100% where the property lines are for a school or other off limits place? Are you even 100% sure a property is not owned or used by a school or other entity making it illegal? Not saying you should not open carry because of this but I think it should be a consideration.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

Please clarify the try harder. Are you just saying that my argument is not strong. If so, I understand that the open carry argument can be pretty strong for both sides (open carry vs CC). I was simply stating my perspective that I would prefer no one knowing that I am carrying. SteveM4A1 has very valid point that the criminal has the element of surprise. I do not dispute this. But if I am CC'ing, there is an element of surprise on my end as they do not know that I am carrying. I am not saying that CC is better or more preferred by all, just that it is what I prefer. I have nothing against someone who chooses to open carry. IT is there right and has numerous benefits.

Clarification: Read the link.