I haven't used them at the buttstock of a rifle other than once with a 7mm Remington (I think that's right. Felt like a cannon going off in my shoulder) At the steel challenges the PCC's don't bother me at all. Standing next to .45 handguns the blast is more annoying than the report. They are large-ish though.Those look rather large. How do they do with long gun shooting?
I have Howard Leight Impact Sports and Peltor Tactical Sports. I like the much cheaper Howard Leight's better.
I get a weird delay from my Peltor Tactical Sports when shooting steel at 300 and + yards. Misses at that distance sound kind of like hits because of a weird delay in how it feeds me the gunshot's echo off the backstop at those distances.
This created an issue for me in a class when I was spotting for a shooter and calling hits off of the sound of the impact when I now think he was missing and I was just hearing the funky delayed echo.
I have ran both types of electronic ear pro in classes as student and instructor, rain and shine and have used them both at home and work when running loud equipment. Of those two, I prefer the cheaper Peltor Tactical Sports.
Thanks for the thread. I've been reasonably happy with the Howard Leighs, which are one of the lower cost. For some louder ammo/events, I'll add foam earplugs underneath.
I'm looking a bit more critically for my son, though. He's taking his first 2 day class with us at age 19. He already has tinnitus so I want to be more thoughtful about what he uses.
I know there's going to be the obligatory "How much is your hearing worth?" questions. If it's between the MSAs and normal muffs, I'll stick to those.
These two statement kind of contradict one another, as wearing inferior muffs can lead to hearing damage. The MSA muffs offer true noise reduction, and safety as opposed to lesser brands. To each their own, but speaking from experience with hearing loss due to cheap assed .gov ear pro, do your future a favor and come off the wallet and buy decent hearing protection. This goes for eyepro too, Oakley has saved my eyesight more than once, no Walmart “safety/shooting glasses for me.Totally understand that. My brother was born deaf in one ear. So, when he sent shooting with my dad and me, he wore muffs and a foam plug in his good ear. When you already have hearing problems, you have to protect whatever's left!
These two statement kind of contradict one another, as wearing inferior muffs can lead to hearing damage. The MSA muffs offer true noise reduction, and safety as opposed to lesser brands. To each their own, but speaking from experience with hearing loss due to cheap assed .gov ear pro, do your future a favor and come off the wallet and buy decent hearing protection. This goes for eyepro too, Oakley has saved my eyesight more than once, no Walmart “safety/shooting glasses for me.
Thank you for all of the responses, thus far. I'msure the MSAs are fantastic, but there's no way I can justify $200+ for a set of ear pro. I know there's going to be the obligatory "How much is your hearing worth?" questions. If it's between the MSAs and normal muffs, I'll stick to those.
So, do you prefer the HL or PS?
Due to my extensive hearing loss on one side, I'm EXTREMELY careful with what hearing I still have. I started off with a pair of Peltors, and they were great. Picked up a pair of HL's for backup, and they were even better. Then I bought a pair of MSA Sordin Supreme Pro-X w/ LED & gel seals (https://srstactical.com/msa-sordin-...eadband-cover-camo-cups-and-gel-earseals.html) with my HSA account (and Doc's recommendation). All I can say is wow. The sound quality is incredible in comparison to the others. I actually prefer to wear them when hunting, because I can hear details that I can't with my naked ears. And I was shocked at how often I use the LED, especially when packing up my gear in poor lighting conditions after a long day of hunting or shooting. I don't wear my Motorola shoulder mic that often at work anymore, but it's a really cool feature for those that do and works great. The only modification I've made to them is installing an SOE Peltor wrap to them. The factory wrap is good enough, but the SOE one is fantastic.
Sordin. Buy once, cry once.
MSA/Sordins And SOE headwraps are a match made in heaven.Due to my extensive hearing loss on one side, I'm EXTREMELY careful with what hearing I still have. I started off with a pair of Peltors, and they were great. Picked up a pair of HL's for backup, and they were even better. Then I bought a pair of MSA Sordin Supreme Pro-X w/ LED & gel seals (https://srstactical.com/msa-sordin-...eadband-cover-camo-cups-and-gel-earseals.html) with my HSA account (and Doc's recommendation). All I can say is wow. The sound quality is incredible in comparison to the others. I actually prefer to wear them when hunting, because I can hear details that I can't with my naked ears. And I was shocked at how often I use the LED, especially when packing up my gear in poor lighting conditions after a long day of hunting or shooting. I don't wear my Motorola shoulder mic that often at work anymore, but it's a really cool feature for those that do and works great. The only modification I've made to them is installing an SOE Peltor wrap to them. The factory wrap is good enough, but the SOE one is fantastic.
Do some research on NRR, and you’ll find that MSA is one of the best in real noise reduction.Foam didn't hold up on my first pair, replaced it, then the electronics went bonkers, bought them again but next time it will be something in the $60 range because for pistol shooting I am not feeling any love to justify the extra cost. Also changing batteries is a bit finicky and the NRR is not anything special.