Election Recounts and Jill Stein Fundraising

[foszoe]

From https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

Here are the estimated filing fees and deadlines for each state:


Wisconsin: $3.5 million by Nov 25 (ADJUSTED Nov 28 to $3.5 million)
Pennsylvania: $500,000 million by Nov 28
Michigan: $975,000 by Nov 30

She upped it to 9.5 million but there is no way she can cover Pennsylvania

 

[hoosierdoc]

Supposedly the Green Party is ticked she is doing this.

this is nothing more than a Jill stein opportunity to raise money for herself. She already said she may not use all funds for the recount and will keep any extra

 

[foszoe]

Michigan Supreme Court to hear AG case on Monday to terminate the recount on grounds Stein is not an aggrieved party.

It appears that 5/7 were appointed by a Republican Governer. Don't know if that means anything.

Michigan SCJ List MSC Justices

From Balletopedia:

Justice Stephen Markman	1999-2021	Gov. John Engler
Justice Brian Zahra	2011-2023	Gov. Rick Snyder
Justice David Viviano	2013-2017	Gov. Rick Snyder (R)
Chief Justice Robert P. Young, Jr.	1999-2019	Gov. John Engler (R)
Justice Bridget Mary McCormack	2013-2021	Elected
Justice Richard Bernstein	2015-2023	Elected
Justice Joan Larsen	2015-2017	Gov. Rick Snyder (R)

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[Jludo]

Yea I'm all for 3rd parties but Ive not had it explained to me how this will help them.

 

[foszoe]

I hope and think that States will revisit their criteria and laws about recounts after this.

Maybe i need to write my state reps and have them look into this.

 

[CZB1962]

I will make a prediction that no recounts will be done and she/they will just end up keeping all the money.

 

[cosermann]

Wisconsin has had a day of recounting - netted Hillary exactly . . . wait for it . . . 1 (ONE) vote.

Waste-of-time.

First Day Of Wisconsin Recount Nets Hillary One Vote | The Daily Caller

 

[KG1]

Wisconsin has had a day of recounting - netted Hillary exactly . . . wait for it . . . 1 (ONE) vote.

Waste-of-time.

First Day Of Wisconsin Recount Nets Hillary One Vote | The Daily Caller

Yeah but they found 17 votes for Stein and 12 for Johnson. They're closing the gap fast. I think they have a legitimate shot at winning the State.

 

[rosejm]

IMO, if the requestor meets the legal criteria ($ to cover expenses, filing deadline) then the recount should go forward. No additional justification needed.

Really, I'd like to see some double-random recounts like many organizations do with drug testing:
Every precinct is included in a random drawing for a possible recount. Some portion of those chosen are then actually recounted and the results compared.

Limits cost, improves reliability and confidence in the results.

For all the whining I heard on the radio driving home from Thanksgiving, I would expect the recounted results to AFFIRM the initial results.

 

[foszoe]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1749443c5e5_story.html?utm_term=.fbc5e54c4b07


Wonder what happens if a State Supreme Court ends the recount but a federal judge orders it to go?

Guessing that would mean USA Supreme Court AND with what Ruth Bader Ginsberg has said about Trump would she or should she recuse herself from the deliberations?

What a turn of events that would be.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Thought I heard on the radio this afternoon that the Michigan recount had been denied because the Green Party has "no standing" (less than one percent of the vote) and a recount can't possibly change the result for them - and it's too late for the Dems to act because the deadline was last Wednesday.

 

[foszoe]

Thought I heard on the radio this afternoon that the Michigan recount had been denied because the Green Party has "no standing" (less than one percent of the vote) and a recount can't possibly change the result for them - and it's too late for the Dems to act because the deadline was last Wednesday.

The Election Committee deadlocked at 2-2 along party lines which means a MI recount is a go unless there is court intervention....see my previous post for info on that and where I think it could be headed.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Thought I heard on the radio this afternoon that the Michigan recount had been denied because the Green Party has "no standing" (less than one percent of the vote) and a recount can't possibly change the result for them - and it's too late for the Dems to act because the deadline was last Wednesday.

EDIT: Got it from an even more reliable source than the radio - Facebook:
[h=5]Richard Raphael[/h]8 hrs

This just in. Driving back from lunch here on Michigan, listening to news on the radio. Stein's recall count was stopped before it had a chance to start. Ruling is one has to be an aggrieved party to initiate a recount and since she got next to nothing for votes, she doesn't qualify. Only Hillary could have done so and now it's too late as the deadline to file was last Wednesday.



So I not only got the source wrong, I got the rationale wrong, too. Good Job, Blackhawk! Almost as good as CNN.

 

[Liberty Sanders]

​Sure is a lot of money for butthurt lefties to have a tantrum that will change nothing. But, fools and their money, etc.

 

[oldpink]

So, let me get this straight.
When Trump says "I'll keep you in suspense" after having been asked during the third debate whether he'd accept the results of the election, he was ridiculed by Dems and the media alike (but I repeat myself), but when this Green party crackpot, joined by HRC engage in this ludicrous and futile charade to see if they can delegitimize Trump, that's perfectly acceptable...right?

 

[Cemetery-man]

So, let me get this straight.
When Trump says "I'll keep you in suspense" after having been asked during the third debate whether he'd accept the results of the election, he was ridiculed by Dems and the media alike (but I repeat myself), but when this Green party crackpot, joined by HRC engage in this ludicrous and futile charade to see if they can delegitimize Trump, that's perfectly acceptable...right?

To them it is. The media, the candidates, and all of their followers still believe they won the election. The media had them believing that there was no way that Trump would ever become president. 3 days before the polls opened, WNDU was even broadcasting that Hillary already had enough electorial votes to become president.

 

[Hop]

This is how I heard it explained; if the recount doesn't finish in time, the vote can't be certified and that state's electoral votes don't get included in the final count. It's an attempt to get Trump's total EC # below 270. The Dems can then say he didn't win the EC nor the popular vote therefore making him an illegitimate president

 

[Leadeye]

When the big money behind this loses interest and moves on, the game will fold. In the mean time somebody is getting paid well to trade on unrealistic hopes.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

When the big money behind this loses interest and moves on, the game will fold. In the mean time somebody is getting paid well to trade on unrealistic hopes.

Is there something we should follow?

 

[Dosproduction]

I agree with HOP it is to get the ECs from those states out of the count. And knock him down below the 270. Hillary will be able to say it was not her fault there was a recount to save face as she steals the election.