Draco questions/opinions needed.

[HighStrung]

I'm heavily considering buying a draco with the intent of turning it into a sbr after paying the gubment their part and blah, blah, blah. My experience with the whole AK platform (draco platform) is pretty limited and I've just started researching what I can. Is there anything I should really look for (or stay away from) with these plans in mind? What say INGO?

 

[Shooter1]

Its a AK keep it looking original

 

[Chase515]

Its a AK keep it looking original

 

[SynnerG]

I'm keeping my Draco standard, besides the stock and new grip. I have an AR for the tacticool rails and all that. But my Draco was my first AK platform as well and when I watched a Youtube vid on how to field strip it and I did so, I fell in love. Great design, easy as heck to do.

I don't advocate that it's needed or should be tried (lots of springs and such), but I took mine all the way down including popping the pins out to take the trigger group out. Partially to learn about it, but also I did a "trigger job" to wash away all the crusty cosmoline that was making my trigger pull gritty, and then polished up some of the contact points. Now it's almost as good as the 2-stage on my AR.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

If you're going to the 1500 , look for Acme sports . They're selling them for $400 OTD , which if you figure in shipping and transfer fees is a good deal .

They're great little guns and you can get them in .223 or 7.62x39 . As far as I know "standard" AK rail systems don't fit without some modding so if you want to change the hand guards beware of that .

As a "piggy back" if the OP doesn't mind :

Does anyone know if a standard under folder kit will work on a Draco (length wise) providing I have the under folder rear trunnion ?

 

[Stainer]

If you're going to the 1500 , look for Acme sports . They're selling them for $400 OTD , which if you figure in shipping and transfer fees is a good deal .

I saw a few for $350-360. They are still floating in that range but seem to be going up.

 

[MattCFII]

I want one! Glad to see 2ADMNLOVER got his, I've been following his thread in the WTB section. Did you get the short 7.5" or standard 11.5" barrel? Unfortunately, I'm probably not going to make to the 1500 though.

One other thing I might do besides the whole SBR route is pin on a barrel extension and muzzle device to 16". I handled a Fuller build recently and was really impressed with the Bolton gas block it had on it. While the reduction in weight wasn't that much, not having the front sight all the way out there made a huge difference in balance and perceived weight. Problem is by the time I pay for the parts and pinning/silver soldering with a gunsmith, I'll probably be pretty close to a $200 NFA tax. Also guys have reported if you use the "SAS" sling hold hits to 100 yards are possible in pistol configuration.

If anybody sees the 11.5" version in an Indy area shop let me know. I've been getting on the handgun classifieds about every 3 hours to see if one has popped up.

 

[Stainer]

I bought the shorter of the two, if you are going to make a short barreled rifle for a fun gun like I am, why not make it the shortest you can while still functioning and looking good!

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

Did you get the short 7.5" or standard 11.5" barrel?

Also guys have reported if you use the "SAS" sling hold hits to 100 yards are possible in pistol configuration..

It's the 11.5 version , I'll probably leave this one "stock" other than adding a stock as my other one is all "tacticooled" .

I took my first Draco to Atterbury a few months ago to the 100 yard range and did pretty well . I didn't use any fancy techniques , I held the gun as normal with both of my elbows resting the bench .

I was able to put rounds in the targets head and CM using the above method and didn't think it would matter a whole lot if I were standing , un-supported .

 

[Shooter1]

Look for a VZ58 Stock.

 

[45pro]

Well i'll be putting mine up for sale in the next week or so, its already ready to be a SBR, just need to send in the paperwork, get it engraved, wait for paperwork to get back, then grind off the attached muzzle brake. I already have everything mounted including the ace folding mechanism with the magpul m4 stock ect..... Heres my finished thread on it if you want to take a look. Just never ended up sbring it myself, now i'm looking for a kimber 1911. Anyways send me a PM if you are interested and we can discuss it.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/long_guns/133503-finally_finished_my_draco_rifle.html

 

[MattCFII]

Looks good! Probably out of my price range for this project. Trying to start of small, bit definitely a great option. Where did you get that brake? I'm looking at the CNC warrior 4" extension and then a flash hider.

 

[45pro]

Looks good! Probably out of my price range for this project. Trying to start of small, bit definitely a great option. Where did you get that brake? I'm looking at the CNC warrior 4" extension and then a flash hider.

US Machinegun: 5.5" Ported Muzzle Brake for AK-47 14 x1 LH, AK-47 & AK-74 PARTS & MAGAZINES, AK-5010

 

[japartridge]

I bought the shorter of the two, if you are going to make a short barreled rifle for a fun gun like I am, why not make it the shortest you can while still functioning and looking good!

Where did you get it? have you found any fore grips/rail systems that will fit the Draco Mini?

 

[MattCFII]

The same place he linked the muzzle brake to sells them:
US Machinegun: Quad Rail Hand guard for AK-47 rifles and Draco Pistols, AK-47 & AK-74 PARTS & MAGAZINES, AK47-QR4

Looks to be an UTG Rail system. Also Ultimak AMD65 railed gas tubes fit Dracos.

 

[japartridge]

The same place he linked the muzzle brake to sells them:
US Machinegun: Quad Rail Hand guard for AK-47 rifles and Draco Pistols, AK-47 & AK-74 PARTS & MAGAZINES, AK47-QR4

Looks to be an UTG Rail system. Also Ultimak AMD65 railed gas tubes fit Dracos.

I saw those, but I don't think they would work on the Draco Mini... the 7.75 inch barrel.

 

[Stainer]

Where did you get it? have you found any fore grips/rail systems that will fit the Draco Mini?

I ordered mine from J and G sales out of Arizona. Last time I checked they had gone backorder since I got mine, but keep an eye on them. It was just shy of $450 with shipping. I have not found anyone who make a rail for the mini so I will be taking one and doing some cutting to make it work. Good thing is, I have time because my paper work is still at the CCB waiting to get signed, then another few months at the BATFE and then it will be ready to rock and roll!

 

[Stainer]

The same place he linked the muzzle brake to sells them:
US Machinegun: Quad Rail Hand guard for AK-47 rifles and Draco Pistols, AK-47 & AK-74 PARTS & MAGAZINES, AK47-QR4

Looks to be an UTG Rail system. Also Ultimak AMD65 railed gas tubes fit Dracos.

Or you can get the same one from AIMsurplus for $20 bucks less..... your call though

 

[MattCFII]

I saw those, but I don't think they would work on the Draco Mini... the 7.75 inch barrel.

Sorry, misread your post. Krebs makes a pricey one for standard "Krinkovs" and Ultimak makes a top rail for them too. I don't know if the Krebs would work with the Mini due to size and retainer but at least the Ultimak can be cut down if needed.

 

[Stainer]

Ultimak is too expensive for me to be destroying. I'll use the $60 UTG one first