Do you +1?

[samwathegreat]

I carry +1...originally started carrying +1 because once I chambered a round from the mag, I could hear the cartridges move every time I took a step (must be a little loose). Drop the mag, and fill it back up -- problem solved, tight fit, no more wiggle room.

 

[Sylvain]

Why not carry as much rounds as you can?
Fully loaded mag and one in the chamber is the way to go in my opinion.
If I could I would even carry two in the chamber.
And of course extra mags on top of that, just in case.

 

[INyooper]

So ...where are y'all getting these round magazines from? All of mine look more long and rectangular than round.

Because most handguns are advertized with their magazine capacity and a +1, I imagine that's what the manufacture had intended the would function. Anything less is sorta like only filling up your vehicles gas tank to 7/8ths full or ordering your pizza with a slice missing ...or playing a guitar with only five strings (though, I guess if you're Ron Wood, you might do that).

 

[SideArmed]

I don't +1

But I carry +34 on the other hip

 

[printcraft]

You guys that don't +1 will feel pretty silly when you need that
one extra round to finish yourself off as the zombies descend upon
you and start to eat.

You raise the gun and get a click instead of a bang.




Go on, tell me a zombie movie where that does not happen.

 

[PlinKing2392]

I would, but a guy told me it was illegal to carry with one in the chamber.

False. Revolvers.

 

[SMiller]

ALWAYS!!!

 

[backfire]

Um, rack the slide, let the gun do its job.

Um Nooooo.........

I want to carry one in the chamber, then remove the mag to replace it, so the gun has 6 in the mag and one in the chamber- hence 6 +1.

The Taurus is a DAO only on the first shot, therefore, once the slide is racked, the hammer is fully cocked and I most certainly DO NOT want to run around with a fully loaded, fully cocked hammer for my EDC!! You cannot manually lower the hammer on this gun after racking it unless you fire it.

As I said, I want to have the gun fully loaded with one in the chamber (7 total) and a relaxed hammer, so when the trigger is first pulled, it cocks the hammer in DAO mode until the first shot is fired, then the semi-auto rack takes over for the next shot.

That was my question..... Is it possible to do this? If so, I don't see how, but hopefully someone maybe has tried something else that I haven't yet.

 

[LFD102]

Yes If I need it I want it ready

 

[GlockZ]

Full mag +1 everyday. In my G26 the +1 is a 10% increase in firepower!

 

[SideArmed]

Um Nooooo.........

I want to carry one in the chamber, then remove the mag to replace it, so the gun has 6 in the mag and one in the chamber- hence 6 +1.

The Taurus is a DAO only on the first shot, therefore, once the slide is racked, the hammer is fully cocked and I most certainly DO NOT want to run around with a fully loaded, fully cocked hammer for my EDC!! You cannot manually lower the hammer on this gun after racking it unless you fire it.

As I said, I want to have the gun fully loaded with one in the chamber (7 total) and a relaxed hammer, so when the trigger is first pulled, it cocks the hammer in DAO mode until the first shot is fired, then the semi-auto rack takes over for the next shot.

That was my question..... Is it possible to do this? If so, I don't see how, but hopefully someone maybe has tried something else that I haven't yet.

Just by the sheer nature of what DA and SA both mean, it is imposible to be DAO on the first shot with the hammer fully cocked.

The Taurus and S&W that you mentioned in your previous post, are both DAO = Double Action ONLY, repeat ONLY. So you don't really need to worry about running around cocked and locked.

Taurus Specs
S&W Bodyguard Specs

 

[backfire]

Just by the sheer nature of what DA and SA both mean, it is imposible to be DAO on the first shot with the hammer fully cocked.

The Taurus and S&W that you mentioned in your previous post, are both DAO = Double Action ONLY, repeat ONLY. So you don't really need to worry about running around cocked and locked.

Taurus Specs
S&W Bodyguard Specs

First and foremost, no need for the other smartazz, moronic post in the "liar" thread you made in reference to my question here. Foolish and unecessary...

Secondly, I'm fully aware of the nomenclature of the gun that I OWN, as well as, I certainly know how to operate it and fully know how IT operates. I don't need to read specs on the internet to know how it works...


What I'm trying to get across to anyone that can help is, I'd like to carry my gun with 6 +1, but don't want the hammer cocked when doing it.

1. If I'm holding the empty gun in my hand with the slide closed and the hammer uncocked, a full stroke of the trigger will activate the hammer in DAO mode.

2. If I take the same situation and now add a full mag., racking the slide to put one in the chamber, the hammer cock rail under the slide WILL fully cock the hammer in preparation for that round to be fired.

3. I can then take the mag. of only 5 back out (because a round has now been installed into the chamber) and install another round into the mag. to fill it up full to capacity of 6 rounds.

4. Once I re-install the mag. back into the gun, the gun is now "full", but the hammer is still cocked from the first round that was chambered, but never fired.

On guns with exposed hammers, this wouldn't be a big deal, because you could easily manually lower the hammer on the firing pin and still have a round safely in the chamber and a full mag.

With the Taurus TCP .380, you cannot get to the hammer, because it's nearly enclosed and shrouded, where you cannot lower the hammer like you can with an exposed hammer gun.

Get it now???

The only way I can think of doing this on my gun, is to *slowly* rack the slide to install a round and then *slowly* closing it, while holding the trigger, so the sear will disengage from the hammer while the slide is moving forward.

THEN, I believe I could actually have a chambered round with the hammer down, where the gun will operate in the DAO mode as I want it to. I guess I need to practice with it more to figure it out.


By the way junior, "hypothetically speaking", I own everything I say I do......

 

[jlgray]

i do carry with my beretta +1 due to i know where the hammer is, but i'm having a very hard time with my g23. and ya let me have it, but i am very fond of it and very comfortable carrying it.

long story short i had a gen1 g17 was a police trade in, and was very worn in. one day i got home and took it out of the holster. was putting it into the cabinet i bumped the door then pop, and no my bugger hooker was not near it...

 

[Shive.Justin]

you better believe i carry +1. might need that 1 extra round. who knows how many "gangsters" are gonna jump me when i leave work.

 

[J_Wales]

i do carry with my beretta +1 due to i know where the hammer is, but i'm having a very hard time with my g23. and ya let me have it, but i am very fond of it and very comfortable carrying it.

long story short i had a gen1 g17 was a police trade in, and was very worn in. one day i got home and took it out of the holster. was putting it into the cabinet i bumped the door then pop, and no my bugger hooker was not near it...

Thanks for reminding yet AGAIN of another reason I don't do Glocks.

 

[Lead Head]

Who cares if you remember how many rounds you have in the gun? Are you going to count them as you defend yourself?

Handguns are already compromises. Carry as much ammo as you can. Don't short yourself. Top off your magazines if you have the luxury.

Didn't want the above post to get buried in the shuffle since it makes good sense. Worth a re-read.

It's easy to count the cycled rounds at the range under minimal pressure but under rapid fire conditions, especially under split second self-defense conditions, few probably would count but training to count is always a good idea. The other way is when it doesn't go BANG anymore, drop the mag and shove in another one, etc. You know the drill.

Whatever you do and if it functions in your personal firearm/s, do the same routine and commit to it. I recently started carrying a 7 round down from 10 (plus spare mags) and don't do the +1 thing but INGO has me thinking.

 

[chuckp]

Yes, plus an extra mag.

Chuck

 

[GlockFox]

Yes. I'd like to think it matters.

 

[45fan]

First and foremost, no need for the other smartazz, moronic post in the "liar" thread you made in reference to my question here. Foolish and unecessary...

Secondly, I'm fully aware of the nomenclature of the gun that I OWN, as well as, I certainly know how to operate it and fully know how IT operates. I don't need to read specs on the internet to know how it works...


What I'm trying to get across to anyone that can help is, I'd like to carry my gun with 6 +1, but don't want the hammer cocked when doing it.

1. If I'm holding the empty gun in my hand with the slide closed and the hammer uncocked, a full stroke of the trigger will activate the hammer in DAO mode.

2. If I take the same situation and now add a full mag., racking the slide to put one in the chamber, the hammer cock rail under the slide WILL fully cock the hammer in preparation for that round to be fired.

3. I can then take the mag. of only 5 back out (because a round has now been installed into the chamber) and install another round into the mag. to fill it up full to capacity of 6 rounds.

4. Once I re-install the mag. back into the gun, the gun is now "full", but the hammer is still cocked from the first round that was chambered, but never fired.

On guns with exposed hammers, this wouldn't be a big deal, because you could easily manually lower the hammer on the firing pin and still have a round safely in the chamber and a full mag.

With the Taurus TCP .380, you cannot get to the hammer, because it's nearly enclosed and shrouded, where you cannot lower the hammer like you can with an exposed hammer gun.

Get it now???

The only way I can think of doing this on my gun, is to *slowly* rack the slide to install a round and then *slowly* closing it, while holding the trigger, so the sear will disengage from the hammer while the slide is moving forward.

THEN, I believe I could actually have a chambered round with the hammer down, where the gun will operate in the DAO mode as I want it to. I guess I need to practice with it more to figure it out.


By the way junior, "hypothetically speaking", I own everything I say I do......

Umm, if your hammer is staying back on your TCP when you cycle the slide, you may be having a mechanical malfunction. The TCP, BG 380, Ruger LCP, along with the Kel-Tec P3-AT are all DAO, meaning they are always double action, hammer only comes back when you pull the trigger.

Sounds to me like Side armed might be on to something with reading the specs of the pistol in question, might be worth a try

 

[Aaronhome27]

Umm, if your hammer is staying back on your TCP when you cycle the slide, you may be having a mechanical malfunction. The TCP, BG 380, Ruger LCP, along with the Kel-Tec P3-AT are all DAO, meaning they are always double action, hammer only comes back when you pull the trigger.

Sounds to me like Side armed might be on to something with reading the specs of the pistol in question, might be worth a try

^^ You beat me too it .....

BODYGUARD® 380
$399.00 *
*Suggested Retail, Dealer Sets Actual Pricing
Model: BODYGUARD® 380
Caliber: .380 Auto
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds
Barrel Length: 2.75" / 7.0 cm
Frame Size: Compact
Action: Double Action Only (Hammer Fired)
Front Sight: Stainless Steel
Rear Sight: Drift Adjustable
Grip: Polymer
Overall Length: 5.25" / 13.3 cm
Weight: 11.85 oz / 335.9 g
Frame Material: Polymer
Material: Stainless Steel w/Melonite® Finish
Finish: Matte Black
Purpose: Personal Protection
Professional / Duty


Taurus TCP

Model: 738B
Finish: Blue Steel
Status: Available
Caliber: .380 ACP
Grips: Checkered Polymer
UPC: 7-25327-60696-3
Capacity: 6 +1
Weight: 10.2
Barrel Length: 2.84"
Construction: Steel
Frame: Compact
Action: DAO
Front Sight: Fixed
Length: 5-1/4"
Trigger Type: Smooth
Order #: 1-738031 MSRP: $336.00


If your hammer is not at rest on the above firearms when your finger is not on the trigger then I would not load the firearms and send them to be inspected immediately. IF you have a cocked and locked hammer on a DAO firearm with one in the chamber you are holding a ticking time bomb!!