Ciener/JAC failure to ship after payment

[madeuce50]

any one out there send JAC/Jonathan Arthur Ciener payment for kits,parts,etc and never receive? Chime in or P/M me I have info for anyone interested.

 

[figley]

If you've found a way to get Ciener to be a man of his word, I would request you show up at the next INGO get-together with some bread & fishes.

 

[madeuce50]

If you have been scammed by Ol'smiling Johnnie pls. let me know. I have interesting info.

 

[madeuce50]

If you've found a way to get Ciener to be a man of his word, I would request you show up at the next INGO get-together with some bread & fishes.

Probably won't be at the INGO meeting but how about Federal Court for sentencing. It won't be bread and fish but maybe bread and water.

 

[WhitleyStu]

I have read of these problems going on for decades.

http://donotbuyciener22lrconversions.org/
http://www.ripoffreport.com/sporting-good-manufactures/jonathan-arthur-cien/jonathan-arthur-ciener-inc-o-cacz6.htm
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/jonathan-arthur-ciener-inc-c380670.html

 

[walt o]

The problems stated are why you buy the conversion from MIDWAY . Their customer service will take care of any problem with conversion 's bought from them without you dealing with CIENER.

 

[MtnBiker6510]

Wow, I almost bought a Ciener conversion after thinking of more affordable ways to enjoy shooting my AR15. Not after reading all this. Much thanks

 

[orange]

Wow, I almost bought a Ciener conversion after thinking of more affordable ways to enjoy shooting my AR15. Not after reading all this. Much thanks

I almost bought a Browning HP conversion from him, but this was maybe three years ago. The horror stories changed my mind very quickly. Ciener sounds dishonest, completely disinterested in righting any wrongs once he's received payment, and an utter prick, to boot.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

If you've found a way to get Ciener to be a man of his word, I would request you show up at the next INGO get-together with some bread & fishes.

Yes, you buy directly from him at Knob Creek as I do.

I don't want bread and fishes, but sushi will be great.