Black powder revolver

[EvilKidsMeal]

Sorry if this has been asked before. i couldn't find it.

but do you have to be 21 to buy a black powder revolver?
cause i read that federally the cap and ball type are not considered firearms. (i think i read that right)

im in the market for one cause theyre really cool

 

[cosermann]

No, you do not have to be 21 to purchase a black powder revolver.

 

[EvilKidsMeal]

No, you do not have to be 21 to purchase a black powder revolver.

short, sweet, and to the point. thank you very much sir.

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

And they're FUN!

 

[cosermann]

short, sweet, and to the point. thank you very much sir.

You're very welcome. My first handgun was a .36 Navy Cap and Ball revolver.

 

[Delmar]

Sorry if this has been asked before. i couldn't find it.

but do you have to be 21 to buy a black powder revolver?
cause i read that federally the cap and ball type are not considered firearms. (i think i read that right)

im in the market for one cause theyre really cool

Not only can you buy them when you turn 18, but look what we found out about them on another thread...

Yea completely legal to carry, you don't even need a LTCH to carry one.

IC 35-47-2-1
Carrying a handgun without a license or by person convicted of domestic battery
Sec. 1. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b) and section 2 of this chapter, a person shall not carry a handgun in any vehicle or on or about the person's body, except in the person's dwelling, on the person's property or fixed place of business, without a license issued under this chapter being in the person's possession.
(b) Unless the person's right to possess a firearm has been restored under IC 35-47-4-7, a person who has been convicted of domestic battery under IC 35-42-2-1.3 may not possess or carry a handgun in any vehicle or on or about the person's body in the person's dwelling or on the person's property or fixed place of business.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32. Amended by P.L.326-1987, SEC.1; P.L.195-2003, SEC.6; P.L.98-2004, SEC.155; P.L.118-2007, SEC.35.


IC 35-47-2-19
Application of chapter
Sec. 19. This chapter does not apply to any firearm not designed to use fixed cartridges or fixed ammunition, or any firearm made before January 1, 1899.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32.

 

[Delmar]

Sorry if this has been asked before. i couldn't find it.

but do you have to be 21 to buy a black powder revolver?
cause i read that federally the cap and ball type are not considered firearms. (i think i read that right)

im in the market for one cause theyre really cool

Cabela's has some very good sales, from time to time. Here are the best four values they have right now, in my opinion...http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/Pietta-1851-Confederate-Navy-44-Caliber-Revolver/740536.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100201%26rid%3D30%26WT.tsrc%3DSEO%26WT.mc_id%3DGoogle%26WT.z_mc_id1%3Dcabelas%25201858

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/1851-Confederate-Navy-44-Caliber-Sheriff/735152.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100201%26rid%3D30%26WT.tsrc%3DSEO%26WT.mc_id%3DGoogle%26WT.z_mc_id1%3Dcabelas%25201858

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/1860-Army-Revolver-44-Caliber-Pistols/705022.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100201%26rid%3D30%26WT.tsrc%3DSEO%26WT.mc_id%3DGoogle%26WT.z_mc_id1%3Dcabelas%25201858

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/1858-New-Army-5-1234-Barrel-44-Caliber-Revolver/706233.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100201%26rid%3D30%26WT.tsrc%3DSEO%26WT.mc_id%3DGoogle%26WT.z_mc_id1%3Dcabelas%25201858

If you go with one of the brass frame Colt clones, let me know and I will link you to a thread on another forum that will let you know how to make sure the arbor fits correctly, before you shoot it.

If you are thinking about trying to find a used gun I would suggest you try a want to buy add in the classified section here at INGO. I am also going to send you a PM with a couple other ideas.

 

[Delmar]

Oh here is another really cool one at Dixie Gunworks. I can't believe they still have it for $200! Dixie Gun Works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique gun supplies. With a 12" barrel that sucker is 2/3s of a rifle!

 

[2cool9031]

I use to shoot my blackpowder Remington 1858 revolver all the time. It can be a hobbie in itself...especially if you cast your own bullets.

 

[Delmar]

I use to shoot my blackpowder Remington 1858 revolver all the time. It can be a hobbie in itself...especially if you cast your own bullets.

Conical bullets or round balls?

 

[n9znd]

There is an older .44 Cap and ball in the for sell section. Shameless plug. Jim

 

[EvilKidsMeal]

Cabela's has some very good sales, from time to time. Here are the best four values they have right now, in my opinion...http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/Pietta-1851-Confederate-Navy-44-Caliber-Revolver/740536.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100201%26rid%3D30%26WT.tsrc%3DSEO%26WT.mc_id%3DGoogle%26WT.z_mc_id1%3Dcabelas%25201858

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/1851-Confederate-Navy-44-Caliber-Sheriff/735152.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100201%26rid%3D30%26WT.tsrc%3DSEO%26WT.mc_id%3DGoogle%26WT.z_mc_id1%3Dcabelas%25201858

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/1860-Army-Revolver-44-Caliber-Pistols/705022.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100201%26rid%3D30%26WT.tsrc%3DSEO%26WT.mc_id%3DGoogle%26WT.z_mc_id1%3Dcabelas%25201858

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/1858-New-Army-5-1234-Barrel-44-Caliber-Revolver/706233.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100201%26rid%3D30%26WT.tsrc%3DSEO%26WT.mc_id%3DGoogle%26WT.z_mc_id1%3Dcabelas%25201858

If you go with one of the brass frame Colt clones, let me know and I will link you to a thread on another forum that will let you know how to make sure the arbor fits correctly, before you shoot it.

If you are thinking about trying to find a used gun I would suggest you try a want to buy add in the classified section here at INGO. I am also going to send you a PM with a couple other ideas.

that first link there was actually the exact one i was looking at.

also is the Sheriff version modeled after a real one or was it just a variant someone decided to make? i tried to look it up but was unsuccessful.

 

[Delmar]

that first link there was actually the exact one i was looking at.

also is the Sheriff version modeled after a real one or was it just a variant someone decided to make? i tried to look it up but was unsuccessful.

If I understand correctly, the "Confederate Navy" pistol was a .36 not a .44. It Certainly would have been historically correct that some gun fighters and law men would have shortened the barrels to make it easier to "clear leather" quickly. The shorter barrel certainly does not seem to hurt the value of the gun. In fact, from what I can tell, it seems to help resale value.

I would suggest spending some time at one of the BP forums and read and ask questions before you make your first purchase. there are a lot of guys who are willing to help a guy learn. If you go to Cabela's in person to look at cap and ball guns, print off the page that shows the sale price of the item you are interested in. I'm told they don't always have the same sales in the store, but they should match the online price, if you bring evidence.

Also just a little side note about the brass frame Colt clone. It is a really cool looking gun, and a great shooter if you make sure the gun it fine tuned a bit, and if you are not the kind of guy that likes shooting max loads. If, on the other hand, you want to really load her up and make her go BOOM and shake the Earth with some frequency I would spend the extra $50 and get the Steel frame 1960 or an 1858 Remington clone.

 

[Hoosier8]

Picked up this Pietta repro off the board here, a 1851 Navy .36 with 7 1/2" barrel. I have yet to shoot it, but what the heck, I like the way it looks. I wanted the .36 since that is what the Navy came as originally.

 

[Delmar]

Picked up this Pietta repro off the board here, a 1851 Navy .36 with 7 1/2" barrel. I have yet to shoot it, but what the heck, I like the way it looks. I wanted the .36 since that is what the Navy came as originally.

Very nice!

 

[EvilKidsMeal]

I decided enough was enough

I looked around quite a bit and my anxiety got the best of me. Picked this up from Cabelas tonight.
Pietta reproduction 1860 Colt Army .44

only thing is the wedge to disassemble it seems impossible to remove. not sure what to do.

 

[Compatriot G]

Most Colt reproductions I have handled have very tight wedges when they are new. I have an Uberti 1860 Army and I still have to tap the wedge out. I just use the handle of a screwdriver to gently tap the wedge out.

 

[EvilKidsMeal]

Most Colt reproductions I have handled have very tight wedges when they are new. I have an Uberti 1860 Army and I still have to tap the wedge out. I just use the handle of a screwdriver to gently tap the wedge out.

but the right hand side of the wedge is flush with the frame so how does this process work for you?

 

[Compatriot G]

but the right hand side of the wedge is flush with the frame so how does this process work for you?

Just tap the wedge while pulling on it with your other hand. I have loosened the screw before and that seemed to help. On some of the repro cartridge conversions, you have loosen the screw or the wedge doesn't come out.

 

[Delmar]

but the right hand side of the wedge is flush with the frame so how does this process work for you?

It looks on that map like Highland is not real far from Cabela's so my first suggestion is to take it back to Cabela's and have them "demonstrate" how to get it out, or give you a new one without the problem.