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  • Katana1

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    I finally got around to addressing a sticky fire/safety selector on an AR. It was a nuisance, but it wasn’t really unsafe. It likely was like that from the factory, but since it was my first AR, I didn’t know any better. I didn’t want to sent it back to the factory or find a gunsmith to fix it for me.


    I watched all the YouTube videos I could find on the subject. Advice was given to cut the spring to reduce tension, file the safety detent and to polish the channels in the safety to reduce friction.


    I am not a gunsmith, nor do I play one on TV, but all the advice given seemed to make the safety less safe, not more safe.


    Long story short. I found a new beefy safety selector online for $6, yea, they are usually about $50 and up. I also found a ‘kit’ with new springs and safetly selector detents for about $12. I simply did a pull-put and viola, it works better than new. It took longer to buy them that it did to replace them. The entire job cost me between $7 and $20 depending on how you figure it.


    The $6 safety is about 1/8 inch longer than stock safety and about 1/8 inch thicker. This gives your thumb something to grab onto. Now when you work the safety, there is a definite snap when engaging and dis-engaging the safety. Yea for that.


    My point is not so much that I am genius, but rather to point out that there is a lot of bad gunsmith advice on the internet. So carefully consider what you are doing before you do it. There is a reason why AR’s are built they way they are, so be careful when changing anything that may affect the safety of operation.
     

    gregkl

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    I have found that there are more YouTube videos on how NOT to do something correctly rather than doing it correctly.

    And this crosses a lot of subject matter, not just firearms.
     

    Ruger_Ronin

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    I finally got around to addressing a sticky fire/safety selector on an AR. It was a nuisance, but it wasn’t really unsafe. It likely was like that from the factory, but since it was my first AR, I didn’t know any better. I didn’t want to sent it back to the factory or find a gunsmith to fix it for me.


    I watched all the YouTube videos I could find on the subject. Advice was given to cut the spring to reduce tension, file the safety detent and to polish the channels in the safety to reduce friction.


    I am not a gunsmith, nor do I play one on TV, but all the advice given seemed to make the safety less safe, not more safe.


    Long story short. I found a new beefy safety selector online for $6, yea, they are usually about $50 and up. I also found a ‘kit’ with new springs and safetly selector detents for about $12. I simply did a pull-put and viola, it works better than new. It took longer to buy them that it did to replace them. The entire job cost me between $7 and $20 depending on how you figure it.


    The $6 safety is about 1/8 inch longer than stock safety and about 1/8 inch thicker. This gives your thumb something to grab onto. Now when you work the safety, there is a definite snap when engaging and dis-engaging the safety. Yea for that.


    My point is not so much that I am genius, but rather to point out that there is a lot of bad gunsmith advice on the internet. So carefully consider what you are doing before you do it. There is a reason why AR’s are built they way they are, so be careful when changing anything that may affect the safety of operation.
    Good write up. So many firearms are ruined by a hastey man named bubba with a dremel, jb weld, and noble intentions.

    Watching more than 1 video on a subject will help weed out good advice from some of the bad stuff. Glad you found a simple solution.
     

    NHT3

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    I have found that there are more YouTube videos on how NOT to do something correctly rather than doing it correctly.

    And this crosses a lot of subject matter, not just firearms.
    Amen brother.. misinformation on the U of Tube is everywhere disguised as the real deal.
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    Chance

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    One of the most important things to know is when to stop. Applies to working on guns and lots of other things.
     

    ECS686

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    Glad it worked out I laugh at the YouTube Gunsmiths and 90% of the Instructors and gun guys there myself. Everytine I have seen a Glock or AR choke in training or a match 99% of the time its the owners home armorer jobs, aftermarket triggers, Generic/Non OEM Magazines or aftermarket barrels.

    Also theres a HUGE difference between a Gunsmith and an Armorer. Gunsmiths are a specialist specifically trained over years. They know how to handfit and machine parts generally. Then usually a several day class per firearm model etc.

    Arnorers usually a 1 day class at most you kearn to reokacw oarts and test for specs.

    Armorers, even if Military, well they replace parts or work off a tech sheet. No manufacturers will advise an Armorer to cut on anything.
     

    Hookeye

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    The AR safety either blocks the trigger or it doesn't.
    It is a drum w a slot.
    The effort to rotate it can be changed by the methods mentioned.
    That wont make it unsafe, if some effort to move is still maintained.

    My latest one was pretty crappy.

    Coulda polished it up, or rounded the detent.
    Nah...just lubed it and worked it a bunch, it got tolerable
     

    Hookeye

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    I have seen more than one T&D guy, and engineer, try to troubleshoot a firearm.

    Biases have then declare immediate understanding and wanting to grind this or that.

    Scary.

    Also.....the problem may not be accurately relayed, may be completely wrong, or may be twinged w dishonesty.

    Usually find its the ammo or somebody took the thing apart.

    If it worked before it should again. Start at the beginning and think.

    Too many go " AHA !" And grab the dremel.
     

    EricG

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    After spending a couple decades or so in the manufacturing sector, I've grown to recognize AND accept my limitations. I've also got an ear/eye for nonsensical DIY advice/suggestions.

    Cutting springs, especially on a safety mechanism of a firearm is a huge "Hell Naw"

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