Ballard a lib in disguise?

[Destro]

Did you know that stop signs, schools, and libraries are tyranny?

The founding fathers would be rolling in their graves!

 

[buckstopshere]

I rest my case.

Tyranny is another INGO favorite. Did you know that stop signs, schools, and libraries are tyranny?

Good

Nope

 

[FreeFAL]

Did you know that the stop signs put up in grocery store parking lots on concrete bases are in many states not lawfully binding? You must still yield to pedestrians though!

The founding fathers would be rolling in their graves!

 

[IndyDave1776]

I rest my case.

Why? Is it tired?

 

[rhino]

Why? Is it tired?

The answer to that question: Yes.

 

[Leadeye]

Ballard is just a figurehead for the big money and law firms that run the city. Leadership as a rule sees people as something to be managed at best, scraped off their shoe at worst. In this country however the people can still have somewhat of a say.

 

[AtTheMurph]

Ballard is a RINO. I guess that makes him a leftist in disguise, the very worst sort.

 

[88GT]

I rest my case.

Tyranny is another INGO favorite. Did you know that stop signs, schools, and libraries are tyranny?

Being forced at the point of a gun (or with the threat of violence, incarceration, or other penalty) to use my labors to pay for the responsibilities of others without my voluntary consent is tyranny. Which makes the last 2 on your list tyrannical by definition. Stop signs, not so much.

 

[poptab]

Being forced at the point of a gun (or with the threat of violence, incarceration, or other penalty) to use my labors to pay for the responsibilities of others without my voluntary consent is tyranny. Which makes the last 2 on your list tyrannical by definition. Stop signs, not so much.

But taxes are voluntary so it's not tyranny.
Also you can move to somolia.
If you really do move to somolia then you will be volunteered to pay an exit tax but it's voluntary.

 

[poptab]

By voluntary I mean that you will pay or face threats of weighty punishments.

 

[IndyDave1776]

By voluntary I mean that you will pay or face threats of weighty punishments.

Sounds more like extortion than anything voluntary to me, or perhaps a 'volunteer or be drafted' scenario.

 

[Henry]

I hear Melina Kennedy is a strong supporter of the 2A, guess the Indy voters made the wrong choice

LOL!!!!

There was a choice? Between what?



Never open the door to a lesser evil, for other and greater ones invariably slink in after it.

 

[88GT]

But taxes are voluntary so it's not tyranny.
Also you can move to somolia.
If you really do move to somolia then you will be volunteered to pay an exit tax but it's voluntary.

Taxes are voluntary. The Feds, however, are operating well beyond the scope of the authority and power granted to them to levy those taxes, which makes the imposition of any tax not covered by that power tyranny.

 

[poptab]

Taxes are voluntary. The Feds, however, are operating well beyond the scope of the authority and power granted to them to levy those taxes, which makes the imposition of any tax not covered by that power tyranny.

Well if you don't pay no tolls then some of us can't eat no rolls...
And who would build the roads....

 

[88GT]

Well if you don't pay no tolls then some of us can't eat no rolls...
And who would build the roads....

So go make some muffins.

 

[poptab]

So go make some muffins.

But I want my free gubmint rolls

 

[88GT]

But I want my free gubmint rolls

If they're anything like government cheese....

 

[level.eleven]

Being forced at the point of a gun (or with the threat of violence, incarceration, or other penalty) to use my labors to pay for the responsibilities of others without my voluntary consent is tyranny. Which makes the last 2 on your list tyrannical by definition. Stop signs, not so much.

Honestly, I tune out when the lede is at the point of gun. An anarchist will never be satisfied until they get exactly what they want.

 

[Lex Concord]

Honestly, I tune out when the lede is at the point of gun. An anarchist will never be satisfied until they get exactly what they want.

Yes. I remember (just barely - it has been a while) from my sequential logic course, plugging one's ears and saying "nah, nah, nah, I can't hear you" is always a surefire debate winner.

While you may only be tuning out because you don't want to hear the "anarchist" argument yet again, please don't tell my you can't see the gun at the end of the logical chain. It is most certainly there, as it, and other means of applying force, are the only tools the state has in the end.

 

[buckstopshere]

Honestly, I tune out when the lede is at the point of gun. An anarchist will never be satisfied until they get exactly what they want.

Wow, anarchist and statists have something in common. On one hand, an insatiable appetite for ownership of ones own life and on the other, an insatiable appetite for state (or "society") ownership of ones life, productivity, wealth and property for the betterment of the collective.

If those were my only two choices, I'd choose anarchy.