Arizona New Gun law

[dwh79]

Looks like per local arizona site Arizona Local News - Phoenix Arizona News - Breaking News - azcentral.com I do believe but looks like they are going to become the third state in the Union to not require a permit to carry a gun. Ah how I love that State right behind my home state of Indiana.

 

[NateIU10]

The Associated Press: Ariz. House approves concealed weapons bill

Looks that way, as long as the Gov signs it (appears likely, as the final version of the bill had edits requested by the Governor's office).

 

[MTC]

From the comments section:

Will someone please tell me what the benefit was for removing the required training and permit to carry concealed??????

Now we will just have more idiots, like the guy in the WalMart in El Mirage, who don't know the first thing about guns or their responsibility to carry a gun (even unconcealed), carrying concealed and endangering the rest of us with their stupidity.

Not everyone has the brains to get training and learn the laws when they go out and buy a gun.

I am an Endowment Member of the NRA.
I have carried concealed weapons for 35+ years.
I am adamantly opposed to the foolish and dangerous repeal (in effect) of the requirement that a person must have training in WHEN it is lawful to employ deadly force, which is now required.
This has gone too far.

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Arizona's constitution, Article 2, Section 26 clearly states that "The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the state shall not be impaired."

That constitutional provision doesn't require a permit or classes, or anything else.

The CCW [for current holders] is still valid and will continue for those who wish recoprocity with other states and cash and carry at gun stores. This bill removes the misdemeanor penalty for carrying without a permit.

Yippie-Ky-Yay!

 

[TheLoneRaider]

That is awesome. I had to spend the 8 hours in class thanks to Janet Napolitono. Republican Governor Jan Brewer is awesome.

 

[NateIU10]

That is awesome. I had to spend the 8 hours in class thanks to Janet Napolitono. Republican Governor Jan Brewer is awesome.

Yeah, it's just too bad Napolitano resigned as Gov because she moved UP in the government...

 

[bigg cheese]

That's the Peter Principle in action:

The Peter Principle is the principle that "In a Hierarchy Every Employee Tends to Rise to His Level of Incompetence."

 

[wtfd661]

Good going Arizona, Now Indiana needs to follow suit.

 

[Protest]

Good going Arizona, Now Indiana needs to follow suit.

And since Indiana citizens can't introduce new laws to the ballot, we need to influence lawmakers to do it for us.

 

[baldmax]

We are close to that. We have a life time permit to carry. No training need.

If they enact a "no permit to carry" law, will I get a refund?

 

[dukeboy_318]

We are close to that. We have a life time permit to carry. No training need.

If they enact a "no permit to carry" law, will I get a refund?

no, of course not, their excuse would be that its already been spent or that they have no record of it, something stupid like that.

 

[mrjarrell]

We are close to that. We have a life time permit to carry. No training need.

If they enact a "no permit to carry" law, will I get a refund?

Nope. The most likely thing to happen is that the LTCH would remain in effect for people wishing reciprocity with other states. That way you could still carry when on vacation or visiting other places.

 

[Tallenn]

And since Indiana citizens can't introduce new laws to the ballot, we need to influence lawmakers to do it for us.

Arizona citizens don't directly introduce legislation, either. But, they (we, I still consider myself an Arizonan at heart) have a powerful gun rights organization that has a lot of influence in the state house: AZCDL, the Arizona Citizen's Defense League.

 

[Tallenn]

UPDATE!!! This is now LAW! Governor Brewer has just signed the bill!

3 down, 47 to go

 

[MTC]

Arizona rocks!

Congrats on getting rid of the socialist permit requirement.
Kill it. Burn it. Drive a stake through its heart.

 

[NateIU10]

UPDATE!!! This is now LAW! Governor Brewer has just signed the bill!

3 down, 47 to go

Awesome!

 

[NateIU10]

And for those who'd like to read:

Arizona to allow concealed weapons without permit

Arizona to allow concealed weapons without permit

Governor Brewer signs legislation into law

48 comments by Alia Beard Rau - Apr. 16, 2010 03:46 PM
The Arizona Republic
Starting later this summer, U.S. citizens 21 and older can begin carrying a concealed firearm without a permit in Arizona.

Gov. Jan Brewer signed Senate Bill 1108 into law Friday afternoon. It eliminates the requirement for a concealed-carry weapons permit, but does require gun owners to accurately answer if an officer asks them if they are carrying weapon concealed. It also allows officers to temporarily confiscate a weapon while they are talking to an individual, including during a traffic stop.


"I believe strongly in the individual rights and responsibilities of a free society, and as governor I have pledged a solemn and important oath to protect and defend the Constitution," Brewer said in a news release. "I believe this legislation not only protects the Second Amendment rights of Arizona citizens, but restores those rights as well."


The law goes into effect 90 days after the Legislature adjourns for this session, which could happen in the next couple of weeks.



Arizona joins Vermont and Alaska in not requiring such permits.
"If you want to carry concealed, and you have no criminal history, you are a good guy, you can do it," bill sponsor Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, has said of his bill. "It's a freedom that poses no threat to the public."


National Rifle Association lobbyist Matt Dogali said the new state law would not violate any current federal requirements.



"There is no federal requirement for a permit or lack thereof," Dogali said.
The federal government oversees the background-check program required to purchase a weapon, which will still be required in Arizona in most cases.
Brewer last week did sign a separate law that exempts guns made and kept in Arizona from federal regulation, including background checks.


Arizona had 154,279 active permits as of April 4. Permit holders are spread across all ages, races and counties, but White males older than 30 in Maricopa and Pima counties hold the majority, according to the Arizona Department of Public Safety data.
The permits generated $1.8 million in revenue last fiscal year, according to DPS. The money is used to help cover costs for enforcing laws related to the Highway Patrol, operating the concealed-carry weapon-licensing program and impounding vehicles.
Arizona's permit process will remain in place, and many gun owners may still choose to get a permit. Permits would still be needed in order to carry a weapon into a restaurant or bar that serves alcohol. They would also be needed if an Arizonan wants to carry his or her gun concealed in most other states.


For those who do choose to get a permit, the education requirements do change under the new law. Classes are no longer required to be a set number of hours or include any hands-on use of the weapon. Those who don't get a permit would not be required to get any training or education.
Retired Mesa police officer Dan Furbee runs a business teaching permit and other gun safety classes. He said if most people choose not to get a permit, it will put several hundred Arizona firearms instructors out of business.
"It's going to hurt," he said.


But he said what really concerns him is that the new law will allow people who have had no education about Arizona's laws and no training on the shooting range to carry a concealed gun. The eight-hour class currently required to get a permit includes information on state law and gun safety, as well as requires students to be able to hit a target 14 out of 20 times. Furbee said his class at Mesa-based Ultimate Accessories costs $79, plus $60 for the five-year permit.


"I fully agree that we have a right to keep and bear arms," Furbee said. "But if you are not responsible enough to take a class and learn the laws, you are worse than part of the problem."



He said it's not uncommon for students to walk into his classroom and pull a new gun out of a box with no idea how to hold it and no understanding of the laws surrounding it.


"If you are going to carry a concealed weapon, you should have some kind of training and show that you are at least competent to know how the gun works and be able to hit a target," he said. "You owe the people around you a measure of responsibility."
This new law is the latest of several that have passed over the past year since Brewer took over the office from former Gov. Janet Napolitano, a Democrat.
Napolitano vetoed at least a dozen weapons bills that crossed her desk during her seven years in office, all of which would have loosened gun restrictions. In 2005, Napolitano rejected a bill that would have allowed patrons to carry loaded guns into bars and restaurants. In 2008, she also vetoed a bill that would have allowed people to have a hidden gun in vehicles without a concealed-carry permit.
In January 2009, Napolitano resigned to become U.S. Homeland Security secretary and Republican Secretary of State Brewer became governor.
During her first year in office, Brewer signed a bill allowing loaded guns in bars and restaurants, as well as another that prohibits property owners from banning guns from parking areas, so long as the weapons are kept locked in vehicles

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Arizona has won, Indiana will win!

 

[Cemetery-man]

I feel sorry for the LEO's in Arizona. Now when they find a BG with a handgun, they will have to give it back to him since it's legal for him to have it without a license.

 

[T-rav]

What are the requirements to purchase a gun in Az does anyone know? Is it just a background check and a valid AZ id?

 

[singlestacksig]

I feel sorry for the LEO's in Arizona. Now when they find a BG with a handgun, they will have to give it back to him since it's legal for him to have it without a license.

no, they just have to run a background check while waiting.. if the guy comes back as a felon .. then he gets busted for having a gun..