Another new "rule" incoming? No more private sales without a ffl involved?

[Joniki]

SMH!

Biden administration proposes regulation to eliminate 'gun show loophole'

The administration said new language in the law Congress passed last year after the Uvalde school shooting has empowered it to take the action. Second Amendment activists are likely to challenge the move in court.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Ark]

What do you have to say for yourself, Todd? Did you know you were banning private sales when you voted for that law? Why not?

 

[marvin02]

Dupe?

Will you be considered a dealer?

www.indianagunowners.com

Another new "rule" incoming? No more private sales without a ffl involved?

I knew the day would come, but I really hoped it wouldn't be this soon. I hope I'm misunderstanding this or that indiana state law will still allow us our rights but I'm definitely no lawyer. Link added per request.

www.indianagunowners.com

 

[flatlander]

Just to clarify:

 

[erasure]

What do you have to say for yourself, Todd? Did you know you were banning private sales when you voted for that law? Why not?

No comment
Yes
No comment

 

[Angrysauce]

I've purchased and sold firearms privately, several times; I've never recorded ****. I don't intend to stop, nor do I intend to maintain a bound book. I have a full time job, this is a hobby.
The Biden admin can eat my ass, except Harris. You tell her there's a promotion involved and that cackling **** might actually try.

Testing the profanity filter today

 

[Squirt239]

This goes back to the whole, "Criminals don't follow laws" narrative.

When the government realizes that punishing the masses, and/or making felons out of otherwise upstanding citizens, is not the answer to our problems, the better off we all will be.

Period. End of discussion.

 

[jwamplerusa]

Okay, I know I'm dangerously close to being concerned about the actual constitution but I have to ask.

How in the h*** is any of this stuff remotely constitutional. If there is no interstate Commerce involved, nor a transaction in Commerce, where is the Constitutional authority for any of the BS the ATF is putting forward?

On what Constitutional basis is The federal government claiming domain over intrastate transactions between private citizens? Serious question that I hope one of our lawyers will speak to.

I know the federal government and SCOTUS Have stretched the Commerce clause beyond the breaking point but these most recent proposals simply are beyond all rational extension of the Commerce clause.

Not to mention a blatant affront to the 2nd Amendment.

 

[jbombelli]

I will neither confirm nor deny that I will pay attention to that rule, if and/or when it becomes reality.

 

[flatlander]

This goes back to the whole, "Criminals don't follow laws" narrative.

When the government realizes that punishing the masses, and/or making felons out of otherwise upstanding citizens, is not the answer to our problems, the better off we all will be.

Period. End of discussion.

They will never admit that. When the people understand that all the government wants to do is control every aspect of their lives, it will be too late. The .gov does not care. Period.

 

[Noble Sniper]

Biden is like a old white dry dog turd……

 

[Noble Sniper]

I propose a new law….. that he stays out of my life and just reinserts his head back up his liberal backside!!!

 

[DDadams]

I guess I need to hurry up and buy a dozen basic ARs, G17s & G19s, Mossberg 500s, and 357 revolvers to use as trading currency for things i want in the future. If I buy something then trade it, I didn't make a USD profit on it. Once I trade for a different gun, I can sell it later if I want without recording a profit, since I traded for it in the first place. LOOPHOLE!!!

NOPE

That's the big problem I didn't see until now either.

Here's a lawyer breaking down the wording. This rule is WAY worse than I initially thought...

 

[Angrysauce]

NOPE

That's the big problem I didn't see until now either.

Here's a lawyer breaking down the wording. This rule is WAY worse than I initially thought...

His thumbnails and titles make every video indistinguishable from every other. If I must watch a guntube lawyer, Tom Grieve or the Armed Attorneys.
This guy gets the video out fast, I'll give him that.

 

[Nugget]

NOPE

That's the big problem I didn't see until now either.

Here's a lawyer breaking down the wording. This rule is WAY worse than I initially thought...

Interesting. A pecuniary gain, meaning a gain not just in cash from a sale, but also through barter of any goods or services, would make me a gun dealer. So if I trade a clapped out non-functioning musket for a dozen glocks, I've made a non-cash "gain" and I'm now a firearms dealer, even though i've taken a dozen deadly fully-semiautomatic guns off the street. Yeah, that should hold up in court. "Your honor, I didn't have enough money to pay my $600 rent so I gave my landlord a $700 gun. I know I should've gotten my FFL first, but i was too busy trying not to be homeless."

 

[Peacekeeper3073]

ATF making their own laws and nothing from Congress. They are all useless.

 

[bwframe]

This gent's a little easier to watch and listen to. Hopefully there will be more media on this coming?





Might be a good time to catch the Gun Guy on WIBC tomorrow. I always prefer Guy's breakdowns of the issue.

 

[Magyars]

"Even One Firearm Sale" Could Land You In Jail Under Biden's New ATF Rule | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[loudgroove]

Liberals vs firearms are like liberals vs Trump. They throw every bit of Sh*t they can at the wall to see what sticks. Sadly, they've have had more luck against firearms than they have against Trump. But it seems to me that in time everything they have done against the 2nd amendment get overturned even liberal utopias where the courts ordered them to drop the "may issue" part of their gun laws as an example.

 

[Mgderf]

ATF making their own laws and nothing from Congress. They are all useless.

And legally unenforceable.