There are far worse fates than never having been born.
Whatever promotes liberty for the most amount of people is the right solution. Have people forgotten about adoption?
Some folks never bother to think of the unintended consequences of outlawing things they personally dislike. Fortunately, there are people out there who do think of these things.
Abortion: An Excerpt From _Hope_, by Aaron Zelman and L. Neil Smith
Abortions happened before Roe and, even if the men in this thread ever got their way, they'd still happen.
Yes, as a matter of fact I do think that that the vast majority of you are just that......unseeing. You'd willingly expand government and willingly intrude into and enslave women to your whims. The fact that you'd even consider the things in a positive manner that Zelman and Smith posited shows the insanity of your positions.Do you really think we are that f**king stupid that we wouldn't have thought of such things? I am sorry. I will not now, nor will I ever condone murder of the innocent for the sake of convenience.
Yes, as a matter of fact I do think that that the vast majority of you are just that......unseeing. You'd willingly expand government and willingly intrude into and enslave women to your whims.
To the best of my knowledge, .gov funding already does not cover abortion. Not sure where you're getting your info from.First, cut off the .gov subsidies to abortion providers.
Second, legalize murder.
If you are willing to create a level playing field, maybe we can find some common ground, but this selective horsesh*t needs to stopl
To the best of my knowledge, .gov funding already does not cover abortion. Not sure where you're getting your info from.
As for murder. Abortion ain't it. The courts have spoken to the matter and it isn't murder, no matter how many times you folks scream it is. Go back and read the piece I linked to. How is it not enslaving women?
Some folks never bother to think of the unintended consequences of outlawing things they personally dislike. Fortunately, there are people out there who do think of these things.
Abortion: An Excerpt From _Hope_, by Aaron Zelman and L. Neil Smith
Abortions happened before Roe and, even if the men in this thread ever got their way, they'd still happen.
Yes, as a matter of fact I do think that that the vast majority of you are just that......unseeing. You'd willingly expand government and willingly intrude into and enslave women to your whims. The fact that you'd even consider the things in a positive manner that Zelman and Smith posited shows the insanity of your positions.
To the best of my knowledge, .gov funding already does not cover abortion. Not sure where you're getting your info from.
As for murder. Abortion ain't it. The courts have spoken to the matter and it isn't murder, no matter how many times you folks scream it is. Go back and read the piece I linked to. How is it not enslaving women?
To those of you who oppose abortion in its entirety, what are your feelings on abortion in the case of rape?
I don't get the people who oppose contraceptives. "Just don't have sex!" they say. Right, that will never happen. My vote in that situation will be contraceptives every time.
In the case where unwanted babies are brought into the world due to lack of foresight, willpower, contraceptives, or what have you, I vote for abortion before placing the burden of the child's life on the tax payer. You know as well as I do that we end up paying for those kids.
To those of you who oppose abortion in its entirety, what are your feelings on abortion in the case of rape?
I don't get the people who oppose contraceptives. "Just don't have sex!" they say. Right, that will never happen. My vote in that situation will be contraceptives every time.
In the case where unwanted babies are brought into the world due to lack of foresight, willpower, contraceptives, or what have you, I vote for abortion before placing the burden of the child's life on the tax payer. You know as well as I do that we end up paying for those kids.
To the best of my knowledge, .gov funding already does not cover abortion. Not sure where you're getting your info from.
As for murder. Abortion ain't it. The courts have spoken to the matter and it isn't murder, no matter how many times you folks scream it is. Go back and read the piece I linked to. How is it not enslaving women?
None of what you state justifies the murder of another human being, in the womb or out of the womb.
I can understand your point but cannot condone the execution of someone who did nothing to deserve it.
Fair enough, we can agree to disagree on that point.
You're operating on the assumption that I am 100% opposed to murder, I am not. I am a firm supporter of the death penalty for serious violent crime.
There are times, although extremely few and far between, where the taking of a life is warranted.