+1 For Dash Cams

[hornadylnl]

I'll just leave this here.

Man gets traffic ticket for running stop sign when video shows he clearly stopped

 

[PapaScout]

If it were 2am it would sound like fishing, but this looks like an honest mistake by the officer.

 

[hornadylnl]

Even after video proof was presented, the chief made excuses. If not for the video, the ticket would have stuck. Either the officer wrote a ticket for something he clearly didn't see or he thought he had an easy mark. Error on the side of issuing a ticket I guess.

 

[PapaScout]

I agree it was a bad call on the officer's part (intentional or not), and the chief backed his officer. I've never considered getting a dash cam but perhaps I should.

 

[hornadylnl]

I agree it was a bad call on the officer's part (intentional or not), and the chief backed his officer. I've never considered getting a dash cam but perhaps I should.

1 bad ticket might pay for it. I should get one as well.

They should double the amount the ticket would have been for. Let the officer pay half and the chief pay the other half to the guy he have the ticket to.

 

[PapaScout]

I also agree that there should be consequences for the officer making a bad call. Performance based measurement where his raise depends on the percentage of valid tickets compared to the rest of his department. Each officer's percentage plays against the total salary increase available for him and his peers. Combined with a weighting mechanism using his accuracy percentage against the number of tickets issued to keep it fair for those who write 800 tickets a month and those write 1000 tickets a month.

Humans are incentive-based. Control the incentive and you control the actions.

 

[ModernGunner]

Yeppers, I'm gonna get a dash cam, a vertical shotgun rack, some black BDU's, and OC! Maybe even get a used, two-tone brown Crown Vic from a county auction!
But I'm NOT gonna get a CCW badge, 'cause someone 'might' think I'm a wannabe cop!

 

[PapaScout]

Yeppers, I'm gonna get a dash cam, a vertical shotgun rack, some black BDU's, and OC! Maybe even get a used, two-tone brown Crown Vic from a county auction!
But I'm NOT gonna get a CCW badge, 'cause someone 'might' think I'm a wannabe cop!

It might be a mistake to associate dash cams with law enforcement only. Do you remember the meteorite in Russia a couple of years ago and all of the really neato videos from common motorists with dash cams? You should check it out if not.

 

[hornadylnl]

Yeppers, I'm gonna get a dash cam, a vertical shotgun rack, some black BDU's, and OC! Maybe even get a used, two-tone brown Crown Vic from a county auction!
But I'm NOT gonna get a CCW badge, 'cause someone 'might' think I'm a wannabe cop!

This has what to do with the thread?

Had it not been for the drivers dash cam, the ticket would have stuck. How is an officer writing a ticket for an infraction that never occurred any different than the same officer stealing the cost of the ticket out of the drivers wallet?

 

[Brandon]

Dash cams are great. I bought a cheap one, it's not holding up so well anymore but it still does everything it is suppose to do. Many hours of nothing happening, a few minutes of people doing something stupid while making you happy you had the camera.

I would say if you are seriously wanting one, get one that has the rear view camera as well (basically 2 cameras in one).

 

[ArcadiaGP]

What's the best course of action in presenting dashcam video as evidence? Do you do it on the spot while the officer is writing the ticket, or do you give it to someone else after the fact?

What about in a crash situation? Do you tell the responders that you have recorded evidence? Or do you sort it out yourself afterward?

Asking as a pretty new dashcam owner.

 

[TaunTaun]

What's the best course of action in presenting dashcam video as evidence? Do you do it on the spot while the officer is writing the ticket, or do you give it to someone else after the fact?

What about in a crash situation? Do you tell the responders that you have recorded evidence? Or do you sort it out yourself afterward?

Asking as a pretty new dashcam owner.

If you are a witness, go ahead and present it. However, if you are accused of something, it's your 5th. Review it before presenting it to your attorney. If you were in the wrong, you can always pay the ticket. If you were in the right, why give officers the chance to "accidentally" delete it. I know most officers wouldn't do that, but I know it'd be my luck for me to run into an officer like that at precisely the wrong time.

***Disclaimer: IANAL, but IDSIAHILN.***

 

[Phil502]

He stopped. Thats a weird intersection, if the cop was on that street to the left it might have looked like he did not stop. I don't want to watch it again because the commercial was long, not sure if they say where the cop was sitting or not. Either way he stopped at the sign and should not have gotten a ticket despite what bs the chief tried to put out as an after thought.

 

[T.Lex]

Dash cams are also popular in places like Russia where people don't drive very well (pardon the generalization). Can help show you were not at fault in an accident. Or, conversely, that you were.

 

[jsharmon7]

I wish I had a portable one in my car to show all the hooligans I stop that want to argue that they weren't doing XYZ. I don't stop people unless I am 100% positive they committed whatever infraction I'm stopping them for. If there is even a little doubt I just let it go.

 

[hornadylnl]

I wish I had a portable one in my car to show all the hooligans I stop that want to argue that they weren't doing XYZ. I don't stop people unless I am 100% positive they committed whatever infraction I'm stopping them for. If there is even a little doubt I just let it go.

Thank you. The way it should be. I'm all for every officer having a dash cam. It protects themselves as much as anybody else. There was a caught on tape meltdown show on the other night. A couple scenes were cops dealing with drivers melting down. They were all professional and if the driver lodged a complaint, the film would exonerate them.

 

[Redhorse]

It might be a mistake to associate dash cams with law enforcement only. Do you remember the meteorite in Russia a couple of years ago and all of the really neato videos from common motorists with dash cams? You should check it out if not.

Dash came are pretty common in Russia due to crappy cops

 

[hornadylnl]

Dash came are pretty common in Russia due to crappy cops

If a $100 dash cam can prove you're not at fault in an accident, it can save you your several hundred dollar deductible and help keep your rates from going up. Nah, anyone who's want a dash cam is just a holster sniffer.