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  • Sniper 79

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    Handloading is the way for accuracy. I wasn't happy with any factory fodder in an AR. Match the twist to grain weight and tune your loads. Should bring that group right in to one hole in your target. Start saving your brass and picking up loading components when on sale.
     

    DadSmith

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    Reading through this thread some think 4moa is accurate and some 1moa or less.
    I guess different people have a different idea of what accurate is.

    Accurate to me means 1moa or less.
    Now what does accurate mean to you all?
     

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    Thank you for the willingness to share advice and personal experiences. Although I`m new to AR`s, I`m not new to hunting arms or shooting. I know the very basics, that different barrels like different ammunitions, and that every barrel is unique and different. I had been communicating with Springfield Armory, and getting information was like pulling teeth, but I finally got them to let me know that they accuracy test their rifles with Federal .223 Gold Medal 77 grain. That gives me what I needed/wanted. The chart that someone else shared showed that for a 1:8" twist barrel, the best bullet weights should be 62-69-75 and 77 grain bullets. I`m going to get back out with some Federal .223 77 grain rounds and some Black Hills 5.56 77 grain loads and see how they do. I am hopeful that this will greatly increase the likelihood that one, or both of these loads will shoot wonderfully from this AR.
     

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    Thank you for the willingness to share advice and personal experiences. Although I`m new to AR`s, I`m not new to hunting arms or shooting. I know the very basics, that different barrels like different ammunitions, and that every barrel is unique and different. I had been communicating with Springfield Armory, and getting information was like pulling teeth, but I finally got them to let me know that they accuracy test their rifles with Federal .223 Gold Medal 77 grain. That gives me what I needed/wanted. The chart that someone else shared showed that for a 1:8" twist barrel, the best bullet weights should be 62-69-75 and 77 grain bullets. I`m going to get back out with some Federal .223 77 grain rounds and some Black Hills 5.56 77 grain loads and see how they do. I am hopeful that this will greatly increase the likelihood that one, or both of these loads will shoot wonderfully from this AR.
    My 1-8's so far haven't found a 62gr bullet/ammunition they like. They do like 75-77gr bullets.
    Do you load your own or buy?
     

    DadSmith

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    I`m not a handloader, I`ll be buying.
    You can try Hornady 75gr, AAC has 75gr and 77gr. They are economical to see if your rifle likes them.

    These will be easier on the wallet. Maybe one of these will shoot to your expectations in your rifle without paying for the more expensive versions of these.
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    Mij

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    Reading through this thread some think 4moa is accurate and some 1moa or less.
    I guess different people have a different idea of what accurate is.

    Accurate to me means 1moa or less.
    Now what does accurate mean to you all?
    MO fox head @ 300 yards.

    Cheapo stock handi-rifle and cheapo bushy 3x9 scope.
     

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    Reading through this thread some think 4moa is accurate and some 1moa or less.
    I guess different people have a different idea of what accurate is.

    Accurate to me means 1moa or less.
    Now what does accurate mean to you all?
    Accuracy to me, is repeatability in the groups it shoots. Be it 2" or 8" groups.
    Precision is repeatability in small groups, just because one shot three bullets touching doesn't mean much to me. Do it three to five times in a row. Do that and your on to something.
     

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    I`m not a handloader, I`ll be buying.
    I would suggest you buy a few boxes of these and see what it does.

     

    DadSmith

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    Accuracy to me, is repeatability in the groups it shoots. Be it 2" or 8" groups.
    Precision is repeatability in small groups, just because one shot three bullets touching doesn't mean much to me. Do it three to five times in a row. Do that and your on to something.
    I usually do 10 shot groups. IMO that gives you more information than 3 or 5 shot groups.
    That's why I always load at least 10rds of each powder weight when I'm testing new loads.

    I sure hope that 8" group isn't at 100yds. I'm pretty sure rifled shotgun slugs with iron sights can do that. ;)
     

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    I usually do 10 shot groups. IMO that gives you more information than 3 or 5 shot groups.
    That's why I always load at least 10rds of each powder weight when I'm testing new loads.

    I sure hope that 8" group isn't at 100yds. I'm pretty sure rifled shotgun slugs with iron sights can do that. ;)
    :thumbsup: I tend to do 5 rd groups.

    I was told here that Mosin's are Precision accurate rifles, that's not what we have found.
     

    NyleRN

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    Reading through this thread some think 4moa is accurate and some 1moa or less.
    I guess different people have a different idea of what accurate is.

    Accurate to me means 1moa or less.
    Now what does accurate mean to you all?
    It depends on what ammo you're shooting and what the purpose of said gun/ammo combo. Is a Toyota Supra a fast car? It is for its engine displacement yes, but in general no. Many other cars out there are much faster because they have parts on them that make them much faster.
     

    DadSmith

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    It depends on what ammo you're shooting and what the purpose of said gun/ammo combo.
    Not for me.
    If a hunting round, or any ammunition is inaccurate I won't use it in a rifle. Inaccurate by my standards.
    I'll shoot up what I have, and use the brass for better ammunition.
    If I can't find or make 1moa loads I'll have to settle for the best I can do, or buy.
    That doesn't change my goal of 1moa or less accuracy.
     
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    I've had very good luck with Australian defense industries 69gr 223. https://www.venturamunitions.com/au...s-223-rem-69gr-matchking-hpbt-ammo-20-rounds/

    ADI/Australian Outback is one of my favorites. Buy it by the 200 round case for a better price here...

     
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    1 MOA for rifle and 4" circle at 25 yds for pistol is a thumbs up in my book. NRL22 might be a different ballgame tho, from the little I've gleaned. Want to try that sometime.

    I usually do 10 shot groups. IMO that gives you more information than 3 or 5 shot groups.
    That's why I always load at least 10rds of each powder weight when I'm testing new loads.
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    And the more holes, the more fun is being had. :wrongdoor:
     

    CZ Top

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    Sounds like this is a new gun? All my ARs/Bolt guns have needed 50-100+ rounds for the barrel to settle in before I can see the groups it will deliver. Good luck!
     
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    The guys at my range give me the smile squint when I can print TULA 55g within one moa or less from any of my FN barrels. Do I have loads that print tighter, sure!
     
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