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  • Timjoebillybob

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    Post consumer recycling articles are usually about home recycling and its pick up, at least that is how most articles I have read over years are structured. Too bad you were not around to straighten them out…
    That may be what the articles were about, but that doesn't mean they were correct or that is the only type of PCR. It's like someone who most articles they read about firearms are about revolvers, and saying that all firearms are revolvers.
     

    Ingomike

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    The truck that does curbside recycling is a type of post consumer recycling. But it isn't the only type. The scrapyard down the street is as well, the auto junkyard when they crush cars for scrap, yep that's post consumer recycling. Now the scrap that the Ball aluminum can plant produces is not. Heck returning a car battery for the core charge is PCR.
    Funny thing, out of several hits on the definition of post consumer recycling/waste, cars are not mentioned at all That I saw. Though I agree it likely should be included it is not usually referenced…
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    Funny thing, out of several hits on the definition of post consumer recycling/waste, cars are not mentioned at all That I saw. Though I agree it likely should be included it is not usually referenced…
    Maybe not referenced directly, but they fit most/all definitions of it that I've seen. Here is one
    • PCR refers to materials that are recycled after they have been used by consumers or reached the end of their intended life cycle. This includes items that are collected through household recycling programs or returned to recycling centers after consumer use. Typical examples of PCR materials include aluminum cans, plastic bottles, paper products, and glass containers.
    Wikipedia (yeah I know) does directly reference them in post consumer waste.
     

    Ingomike

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    Maybe not referenced directly, but they fit most/all definitions of it that I've seen. Here is one
    • PCR refers to materials that are recycled after they have been used by consumers or reached the end of their intended life cycle. This includes items that are collected through household recycling programs or returned to recycling centers after consumer use. Typical examples of PCR materials include aluminum cans, plastic bottles, paper products, and glass containers.
    Wikipedia (yeah I know) does directly reference them in post consumer waste.
    That all seems like a correct definition of the totality of PCW. I think most discussion in media is mostly about the packaging.

    A friend has a neighbor that puts out 8 90 gallon thrash bins full per month plus two 90 gallon recycling bins per month for a family of four. What the heck all are they tossing out?
     

    actaeon277

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    That all seems like a correct definition of the totality of PCW. I think most discussion in media is mostly about the packaging.

    A friend has a neighbor that puts out 8 90 gallon thrash bins full per month plus two 90 gallon recycling bins per month for a family of four. What the heck all are they tossing out?
    Bodies.
     

    actaeon277

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    Should have seen the gun guys weeping when the city or county brought in weapons to be melted.


    I laughed when a city officer asked what happens to the oils, wood, plastics.
    Well, at 2880 or so, it becomes pollution that we collect. The pollution is turned into mud.


    And officers were there making sure none of the guns fell someplace convenient for a gun guy.
    Into the furnace.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    That all seems like a correct definition of the totality of PCW. I think most discussion in media is mostly about the packaging.

    A friend has a neighbor that puts out 8 90 gallon thrash bins full per month plus two 90 gallon recycling bins per month for a family of four. What the heck all are they tossing out?
    Not quite sure how big our garbage tote is, but I think it's 60-65 gallon. We rarely go over half full, and usually less than that. We do recycle but I'm guessing it's maybe the same amount. So maybe 4 cans total that size a month, and most months probably less.
     

    Ingomike

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    Not quite sure how big our garbage tote is, but I think it's 60-65 gallon. We rarely go over half full, and usually less than that. We do recycle but I'm guessing it's maybe the same amount. So maybe 4 cans total that size a month, and most months probably less.
    The typical two wheel trash bin is 96 gallons per their website and they offer a smaller version that I do not see often that is 65 gallons…
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    The typical two wheel trash bin is 96 gallons per their website and they offer a smaller version that I do not see often that is 65 gallons…
    Per the company that does my trash they have 32, 64, and 96 gallon bins. It's through my town and I can't find it on their website but I'm pretty sure it's the 64. I could measure it I guess when I take out trash tomorrow.:dunno: Actually I'm curious now and want to know.

    ETA found it in the city ordinance.
    (A) Collection from residences. The city, or its duly authorized agency, shall hereafter collect all solid waste from city residences provided that such solid waste is deposited in proper containers and placed in such designated areas as above specified. Such containers shall consist of 64 or 32 gallon toters, one of which is provided to each residence by the city, which toter shall remain with each residence, regardless of ownership.
     
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    smokingman

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    This is the kind of logic that pisses me off.
    The title of the article is

    "Coastal US cities are sinking as sea levels continue to rise, new research shows"​


    Then I read it and things like "San Francisco International Airport and other parts of the city on reclaimed land are sinking into the surrounding bay". So you are telling me building an airport on mostly sand pulled from the ocean bottom can mean it sinks. No ****?

    It has already been proven over and over and over the sea is not really rising. What is happening is normal tectonic plate movement. Parts of the world are higher(by feet,in the case of the horn of Africa) than they where just 100 years ago, parts are lower as well. If you build on the ocean, on a subsiding plate...guess what? Eventually it will be underwater and the ocean itself does not need to be rising for it to happen!

    Then this gem. "Several locations surveyed on the Gulf Coast show significant levels of sinking -- at rates that are equal to or greater than the current rate of global sea level rise, Ohenhen said." No ****? Tectonic plates can subside and some are, some are rising.

    ..but climate change, the ocean is going to flood cities ahhhh....alarmist bs.
     

    indyblue

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    This is the kind of logic that pisses me off.
    The title of the article is

    "Coastal US cities are sinking as sea levels continue to rise, new research shows"​


    Then I read it and things like "San Francisco International Airport and other parts of the city on reclaimed land are sinking into the surrounding bay". So you are telling me building an airport on mostly sand pulled from the ocean bottom can mean it sinks. No ****?

    It has already been proven over and over and over the sea is not really rising. What is happening is normal tectonic plate movement. Parts of the world are higher(by feet,in the case of the horn of Africa) than they where just 100 years ago, parts are lower as well. If you build on the ocean, on a subsiding plate...guess what? Eventually it will be underwater and the ocean itself does not need to be rising for it to happen!

    Then this gem. "Several locations surveyed on the Gulf Coast show significant levels of sinking -- at rates that are equal to or greater than the current rate of global sea level rise, Ohenhen said." No ****? Tectonic plates can subside and some are, some are rising.

    ..but climate change, the ocean is going to flood cities ahhhh....alarmist bs.
    Not to mention the gravity from the sun and the moon (and just about every other celestial body in some minute amount) influence our oceans. With both of them being lined up next month in the eclipse, it wouldn’t surprise me if parts of the ocean rise several inches during the event.
     

    TheGrumpyGuy

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    Not to mention the gravity from the sun and the moon (and just about every other celestial body in some minute amount) influence our oceans. With both of them being lined up next month in the eclipse, it wouldn’t surprise me if parts of the ocean rise several inches during the event.
    Stop it! Now I'm fwightened!
     
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